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Sgt · « **Reply #20 on:** December 13, 2010, 09:35:04 PM »

OK, I am new so don't beat me to much...

Gene

What do you have for the Crosman Titan GP, I just bought one and the trigger is horrible, oh by the way I am from Honea Path, been in Va. since 76................Please advise on what can be done to the Titan

Terry

gene_sc · « **Reply #21 on:** December 13, 2010, 09:52:20 PM »

Hey Serge, I am next door in Belton.. Order a GRT-III from CDT and you will love the trigger.

http://charliedatuna.com/index.html

Keenan · « **Reply #22 on:** December 30, 2010, 12:02:58 AM »

Hello, new to the forum and just got a Ben. NPXL I know that I want to change out the trigger and sounds like the GTR-111 is what I should go with for the trigger swap and I'm also currious about the GRS kit. What is it where do I order it and what can I expect from it? Is it a seal and bushing uprade? Thank Keenan

Rian · « **Reply #23 on:** January 03, 2011, 02:40:03 PM »

This kit does help tighten grouping by improving consistency - however after installing and going out to shoot my amazing trail np the gun wouldn't latch when cocked- ahhh
had to take it apart and remove the front nylon washer due to the fact that the clearance between the front of the ram and the inside of the piston was barely 1/16 in. the front washer is 3/32's thick plus the 1/64 from the back sleeve. I don't know whether the clearance issue is because the guns are made in china and vary in tollerance or what but the back washer is the most important and seems to work fine alone.

kamora187 · « **Reply #24 on:** January 07, 2011, 06:09:48 PM »

Hello,
I am new to the site and the air gun world and was hoping someone could explain what the GRS kit does and why it is needed?

Thanks!
Travis

gene_sc · « **Reply #25 on:** January 18, 2011, 08:01:40 PM »

The reason it would not cock and lock up is because Crosman has changed the design on ram shaft end and piston bottom divot. Originally they used a flat end on the ram shaft and now they have rounded the end of ram shaft to match the divot in bottom of piston. This is in both the Trail NP and XL versions. Throw nylon washer out when installing the GRS kits NPS that have rounded end on ram shaft. All kits shipped now with out washer.

Sorry guys for the problem but Crosman engineers slipped up on me...

All ram bushings are made to fit and Crosman has not made any further changes to pistons or rams.

Gene

gene_sc · « **Reply #26 on:** January 18, 2011, 08:06:45 PM »

Quote from: kamora187 on January 07, 2011, 06:09:48 PM

Hello,
I am new to the site and the air gun world and was hoping someone could explain what the GRS kit does and why it is needed?

Thanks!
Travis

The main purpose of the GRT kits are to stablize the ram body inside the piston. It will keep Ram from rubbing and moving side to side in piston when cocking gun. This will allow gas ram to work smoother and extend life of ram.

kamora187 · « **Reply #27 on:** January 21, 2011, 05:49:56 PM »

Thanks Gene,
That is good info, I will be keeping that in mind.

Travis

spotface · « **Reply #28 on:** January 31, 2011, 12:29:34 PM »

Gene;
I ordered a kit for my XL and recieved a kit for the NP. I e-mailed you, you apologized and I sent back the kit for the NP. Since then I have sent you three e-mails and still haven't gotten the XL kit. It has been weeks. What is up?
Thanks
Bill Liscomb

gene_sc · « **Reply #29 on:** January 31, 2011, 04:44:48 PM »

Quote from: spotface on January 31, 2011, 12:29:34 PM

Gene;
I ordered a kit for my XL and recieved a kit for the NP. I e-mailed you, you apologized and I sent back the kit for the NP. Since then I have sent you three e-mails and still haven't gotten the XL kit. It has been weeks. What is up?
Thanks
Bill Liscomb

Hey Bill I am very sorry for the delay. Looks like I screwed up...
I sent you a PM.

Gene

Oregon Airgunner · « **Reply #30 on:** February 01, 2011, 09:15:05 PM »

Hello, I'm new to the forum. On the GRS kit would it be better to use Moly Paste or silicon to lube the bushing?

My rifle:
Trail NP XL
Burris Signature Zee Ring scope rings
piston seal upgrade http://www.airrifleheadquarters.com/catalog/item/251485/6616786.htm (not installed yet)
Soon to be added upgrades:
GRT trigger
GRS kit

if anyone has any advise or cautions in regards to installing these upgrades please send my way.
Thank you

gene_sc · « **Reply #31 on:** February 02, 2011, 02:12:57 AM »

Moly on the outside of bushing and silicone on shaft

spotface · « **Reply #32 on:** February 10, 2011, 11:04:25 PM »

Got it today - thanks Gene...

Hey Bill I am very sorry for the delay. Looks like I screwed up...
I sent you a PM.

Gene

Nightstalker · « **Reply #33 on:** February 20, 2011, 02:03:34 PM »

Hey Gene,did the parcel I sent arrive OK? I've got to have the washers as well Please,so if you don't have any,I might as well wait for the GRS kit and do it at the same time.I think the washers are the fix mine needs so I just wanted to touch base.

Thanks,

Troy

toddk63 · « **Reply #34 on:** February 23, 2011, 02:29:24 AM »

Quote from: gene_sc on January 18, 2011, 08:01:40 PM

Throw nylon washer out when installing the GRS kits NPS that have rounded end on ram shaft. All kits shipped now with out washer.

Gene just be clear, you mean the washer that goes inside the piston should not be used? And when you say "flat'"ram end, you mean really flat? Mine, on my NP appeared tapered. When I installed my washer inside the piston , it was a very tight fit. It had to be hammered into place. . It was so tight, I decided to remove the GRS kit completely. At that point I had a hard time removing the the air piston form the main piston. I glued the bushing on to the air piston with a couple of drops of superglue, but when I re opened the mechanism to remove it all, I found it could move into inside the piston. Should I put just the bushing back without the washer and glue the bajezuz out of it?

Todd K.

gene_sc · « **Reply #35 on:** March 04, 2011, 07:16:27 PM »

If Piston has demple at bottom and shaft is rounded on end no washer is needed.

3ants · « **Reply #36 on:** April 25, 2011, 11:48:56 PM »

hi gene are you selling the brass pivot bolt bushings for the benjamin xls yet?

gene_sc · « **Reply #37 on:** May 21, 2011, 08:59:23 AM »

Yes I am. You can go to www.airguntoys.com and sellect what you want via PayPal.

3ants · « **Reply #38 on:** May 21, 2011, 09:43:05 AM »

thanks gene i just order a set of brass bushings for my xl

3ants · « **Reply #39 on:** May 28, 2011, 02:37:27 PM »

hi gene got my bushings today i cut a grease gruve in them with a little file they fit really good i didnt have to tighten the pivoit bolt very tight to get the side play out of my barrel lot better than what i tried to make,now got to wait on the lock tight to dry thanks for a good product

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Sgt

Keenan

Rian

kamora187

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spotface

Oregon Airgunner

spotface

Nightstalker

toddk63

3ants

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