Walther Talon Mag, new kit...

[Bryan Heimann]

  Oh Boy!!!  I picked up some Winchester steel spinners, for airguns and rimfires, and had a little bit of fun with them.  Here are a few pictures of my new hunter, and what happens to the ammo when it hits a steel spinner.  When I tuned her a couple years back, I went pretty heavy with the tar and probably a little too heavy with moly as well.  I disassembled it, cleaned it up inside really well and re-lubed with just a dab of moly in the right places, and a light film of white lithium grease on the spring, washers/spacers and guide. Also, I shimmed the breech seal with 3 rings of waxed dental floss.  I think it is safe to say that she's shooting a little bit harder now The ammo pretty much disintegrates when it impacts the spinners, and spins them quite well.  The ground was littered with tiny pellet fragments, the flattened out ammo in the pictures are not whole pellets.  Just the main chunk of mass that was easy to pick up!  Judging by the way the pellets look after being shot, I think they are moving a good bit faster than 600 feet per second   BTW she shoots the #3 copper plated buckshot pretty well... and the Barracuda Hunter Extremes and copper plated buckshot both share about the same zero   So I have the Hunter Extremes for jobs that require good expansion, and the #3 buck for when I want to shoot clean through something   The buckshot came from Federal 20 gauge #3 buck shotshells.  I have some good zinc plates buck on the way, can't wait to try it... anyway, here's the pictures

[Mpac]

Nice gun but them buckshot fit the barrel good from the looks of it it does.Glad to hear your back in the game of things.What's the accuracy like using buckshot ammo?

[Bryan Heimann]

Haven't really shot groups, seems like I'm getting about a half inch group at ten yards but i ha vent punched much paper.  Zeroed the scope with the hunter extremes and starter shooting spinners.  I hit the small spinner in the middle of my setup every single time, regardless of whether I use the buckshot or the 'cuda hunters.  About the same POI at ten yards.  I have to set up inside the house.  BTW the spinners in the house are a bad idea.  The pellets just splatter and make a big mess, and now you have lead fragments everywhere!  Should have used a little more common sense I guess, no more spinners in the house.  I never thought this gun would shoot this hard.  I knew it was powerful, but man- those buckshot are hard lead, and copper plated and they come smoking out the barrel so hard they splatter like a pellet.  I was pretty surprised.  My gun is a little over-bored so it fits these buckshot despite some having seams and all of them being copper plated.  Some are pretty tight and require a hard object to get them started, others go in with thumb pressure, but at ten yards everything is accurate I guess.  Can't see a noticeable difference in POI.  The zinc plated buckshot I have coming from Ballistic Products is supposed to be swaged and seamless, perfect shot so we will see how they do.  These federal buckshot are not exactly match grade lol but I know for certain that anything inside ten yards is getting a hole punched through it right where the crosshairs lie.  I can't wait to street h it out a bit and do a pellet test

[Dick Tracey]

I thought you would like the Hunter Extreme's, my M-rod and WFH both like them.  I have the Gamo heavy duty spinner, and at 60' you do get an occasional richochet.  Your talon would flip both size spinners.  The M-rod almost  blows the small spinner off the rod.

[Bryan Heimann]

That is awesome.  Thanks again for letting me get this old girl back, bud- and thanks for the pellets too.  Hey BTW I niticed that when I load a pellet, if I look closely down through the breech at a light, I can see the light through a couple of the lands sometimes.  Especially when I fully seat the pelet down passed the chamfer.  With the buckshot,if I look closely I can usually see the light through all the lands except where the seams are.  It really makes me wonder how much energy might not be getting transferred to the pellet.  They seem to be hitting pretty hard anyway, but I need to find a decent flaring tool and start experimenting.  I picked up some white lightning easy lube (wax bike chain lube, something like krytech). last night and lubed up some buckshot with it, in hopes of a better gas seal.  I put two drops on each one, and after they dried I rolled them over and put a couple drops more.  They hit pretty darn hard already, so I am in high hopes that they will really put the smack down with the wax coating.

[fortyshooter]

Number 3 buckshot....I would like to try that in my Sniper 125!  What would happen if I load 2 back to back??

[Bryan Heimann]

I will let you know