Newb asks please name this gun

[rockgrabber]

New to AG and wanting to learn to some basic tuning. Used the GTA library, videos, and other site's resources for information. Bought this rifle at a yard sale for couple dollars and thought it would be the perfect practice piece. Problem is I have no idea what manufacture or model this is. I posted here guessing it maybe made in China but can find NO markings or writing on any part of the rifle. Please help identify what it is. Any help is appreciated.

P.S. I will not attempt to remove the spring until I have a means (bought or made) of compressing it safely.

[FriedTater]

I dont know what they are called specifically but they are Chinese and sold at Flea Markets in the area
Send Mike a message and get his advise on the thing

http://www.flyingdragonairrifles.org/

[Christopher A Bales]

it is what is called a b-3. cummins used to sell them at their tool sales for 25.00 each. I think every air gunner has had or shot on of those at one time or another.

[rockgrabber]

I believe you are correct, it is a B-3. Thanks to you, I found this link in the GTA Archives:
http://www.kermitairgunclub.com/projects/b3guide/B-3%20guide.html
Now I have my reading cut out for me. Thanks again.

[makenzie71]

Ditto the B3.  I hate that all you people keep finding them for next to nothing and all I can find are new ones from dodgy sites lol

[FriedTater]

Must be the "new stuff" I see at the flea barns and such
Last I handled one I told the guy he couldnt "give me" two to carry off

[Paul68]

Good inexpensive gun to work with that will give nice returns when given some attention.

https://www.pyramydair.com/blog/tag/industry-brand-b3/

[Jrex]

A friend of mine actually has 3 of these (or very similar) that he is trying to give me. 1 is .22 and the other 2 are .177! I was afraid of losing a finger with that sliding breech! I may take his offer and see what I can do with them...

[Fwawa20]

Yup b3 I did a tune on one of these not to long ago. Before I had taken game but afterward the tune it was accurate out to 30 yds I been carrying it around with me lately, and have gotten some positive results.
Check out my threads:

http://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php/topic,35563.msg330860.html#msg330860
http://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php/topic,38749.msg360627.html#msg360627

[mikeiniowa]

amazing little rifles with some TLC, most are accurate, keep one hand on that cocking lever when loading orrrrr put a cross pin in the tube in front of the cylinder, works well and done right will remove any chance of it closing on the pinkies..I think BOb has something about doing that, really need to refresh memory by visiting site again...

[Bullit]

Must be the "new stuff" I see at the flea barns and such
Last I handled one I told the guy he couldnt "give me" two to carry off

I had one, and it wasn't that bad at all.  Made me wanna B40.

[jimdaero]

I have one too. I think its a b3-4 there also is a b3-4. Check air rifle review they have pics. You can also buy these new on amazon for 35-45 dollars.

[Luckyj167]

Definately a B-3.  Some of them will say Cummins Industrial tools, and the stock is probably un-naturally light yellowish.  I had one of those in college!  Those things are great! The police confiscated mine due to a fraturnity brother's 'misappropriation' of my gun, but if I found another, I'd pick it up in a heartbeat! I think i got mine for $10. Congrats!!

[CharlieDaTuna]

Safety with the old (and also new) under lever and side-cockers is critical and they can be very dangerous. Here is a couple of links for you from my website regarding safety and also trigger mods.

http://www.charliedatuna.com/airgun_docs/Safety%20mod%20for%20Underlevers%20and%20Sidecockers.doc

http://www.charliedatuna.com/airgun_docs/B1,B2,KL3B%20Trigger.doc

CDT

[makenzie71]

I'll vouch for the safety part.  I had a TS45 fail on me completely not too long ago haha.  The catch slipped off the trigger rather suddenly.  The beartrap failed.  The level hit me in the rids, which bruised my 8th and 9th on my right.  Then the breech ate my favorite shirt.

I always use a stop in the breech...or anything that'll stop it before it breaks my thumb.  The idea of the damage it could do to my fingers doesn't bother me near a much as the thought of having to open the thing back up to get myself out.

In fact, the more I think about it, the more I'm inclined to sell all my TS45's and get QB79's...

[rockgrabber]

I'M HOOKED!
I'd like to thank everyone for your advice, links, articles and especially warnings. My son Henry (12yrs) and I successfully disassembled our very first springer together tonight. Henry wants to be a gunsmith and I thought no better intro than to do a basic tune together. Dad (retired tool maker) has been teaching Henry and this is his first real experience putting those lessons to practical use. Dad loves telling how Henry Ford interviewed machinists (he gave a file, calibers, and square stock, final product was a sphere within set tolerances) ........... polishing this will go along way in understanding just how skilled those men were. No, Dad's not that old, but his father, a history teacher and shop teacher, told him the story.

This is great fun. I'm sure when Dad see what we are doing he will adopt a new hobby. Since I am not so mechanically inclined, thanks again to everyone for their help. I'll continue to post updates and please don't stop helping with advice.

Dave

[z28rod]

To all reading this post please read Charlies post and take it very seriously.

[rockgrabber]

Point taken. I actually printed out both documents from his links. I have a 3/32 bit and allen wrench waiting to be installed once assembly is complete.