The long awaited carbine thread (lots of pictures not 56k friendly)

[MustangMike]

so i think ive settled on a name for the carbine

the Sikes Hunter Carbine

kind of suits it i think


as most of you know i have been having a custom carbine built for me. this carbine is a mix of a disco and a crosman custom shop 2400kt.i received it back from lloyd after darrell worked his magic cera kote on it. there is still some things about the carbine i dont know about because i basically turned lloyd loose on it.. he had the goals i wanted for the carbine and the rest was up to him to decide about... he paid such attention to detail that the parts on the carbine i had no decision in making matched and flowed with the rest of the carbine.

lloyd took a stock disco tube and valve, chopped the tube down and did some extensive mods to the valve. other then porting it out and extending the face of the valve to plug the hole for the gauge from crosman im not entirely sure what was done. im sure with a double tube and the proper tuning with the various springs lloyd sent me and a good accurate heavy pellet i could very easly reach 6 shots at 50fpe in 22cal.
im going to post some pictures lloyd made of the chrony strings with the carbine.. they were shot using different setups but shows the wide range of power options i have this carbine.

now on to the finish, darrel did a excellent job shooting the cera kote on the carbine. i went with a tactical grey and matte black scheme on it, i wanted something stealthy that turned heads but still had a clean look to it. now darrel has sent me a ton of pictures of random firearms he has applied cera kote on so i had no worries about his quality of work. i cannot find any flaws in the finish on it and he kept in very good communication with me as the progress was made with the cera kote for the carbine.
i wanted to go with cera kote due to how durable it is and that this is a boat/fishing gun for the most part. so if i wanted to take it off my shoulder and gently lay it down on some rocks while i fish or if i have to cut a trail through a wooden area i would not have to worry about the carbine getting damaged or having flaws in its finish. i also cannot stand bluing on everything. i also sent darrel my disco tube, 7in extension and rear tube plug for my disco to get cera kote'd in a matte black to match the black bnm breech and shroud i have for it.

so with out further waiting here are the chrony pictures and the pictures of the carbine.. very sorry if some of the pictures turned out bad, i can try to get some taken outside in good light...














final product











here are some casual comments from lloyd about the work on the carbine

"The one piece front end for the valve is  a rsterne idea. The internals of valve were opened up pretty far, including rethreading the valve body to the next largest size and then fitting the new front end to it.  The cocking rod for the new hammer works pretty well and the spring can be changed out without having to do any more disassembly than just unscrewing the adjuster.  Transfer port and the pocket it fits into was opened up and o-ring seals were installed.  It stops the leaks."


more pictures








here is the last bit of shooting lloyd did before sending it back to me.. it was detuned some but still very respectable and roughly the power level it will stay at

"The last batch I shot, which is how it is set now was with 21.5 gn kodiaks
start at 2500psi
878 fps 36.8 fpe
861   35.4
899  38.6
887  37.6
906  39.2
900  38.7
889  37.7
896  38.3
888  37.7
863  35.6
820  32.1
end at 1360 psi "

[Monkeydad1969]

Hurry up Mike, I need ideas.

[Sqrl Klr]

I got the DMC-FH8K which is what I used to take this pic: http://www.imgnook.com/spqMxo.jpg

They're selling at target for $149. Easy to operate and great reviews which is why I bought it.

[MustangMike]

149 is deff way out of budget for me, considering the new toys ive bought i need to find a cheap but decent camera or see if the ipad 2 i got my grandmother will take good enough pictures i could barrow it for a night

[1nmartin]

I don't know of any specific camera models but I'm sure a 10 megapixel can be had for less than 100 bucks.
My DSLR is a 10.2 megapixel and it takes great photos. I couldn't imagine a 24 or even 32.

Good luck finding a camera. I'm excited to see pics of your new woman, I mean toy... 

[MustangMike]

bump for the newly redone introduction to the carbine post...

[Sqrl Klr]

Looks real good. Nice chart too. 43 fpe sounds sweet to me.

[1nmartin]

Thats a sweet gun bro.

[Scotchmo]

Mike,

I like your project.

I have a question on the relocated gauge.

Is there a bushing or port sleeve slipped into the air chamber to retain the gauge or is it threaded directly into the air tube?

[MustangMike]

Mike,

I like your project.

I have a question on the relocated gauge.

Is there a bushing or port sleeve slipped into the air chamber to retain the gauge or is it threaded directly into the air tube?

lloyd made a seperate gauge block thats inside the tube that the gauge its self screws into.. he was able to get index so the gauge wasnt crooked when it was screwed in

[amb5500c]

Pretty colors.
Richard

[BmaS]

I'll give ya another bump...

Good looking gun my friend!  Nice numbers, too!

How 'bout shootin some groups for us?

[Gesshoku]

Love the look and love the numbers! Awesome jobs from everyone involved.

BTW, sent ya a PM about a camera.

[bradyman1]

Looks great. Why did the gauge get relocated?

[MustangMike]

thanks guys

the gauge got relocated for 3 reasons... 1) i wanted to keep the stock front camo grip and with the gauge in the og location i couldnt moutn the grip, 2) when filling it makes it easier to read the gauge while hand pumping (got a tank setup during its building

3) when was the last time you saw a pcp and/or a carbine like that with a side mounted gauge ? i havent seen one before...


altho this present challenges when putting a double tube on it, that front grip wont fit a 2nd tube and look good, the prod aka woods walker camo furniture would work but the front grip has a hole in it for the prods gauge and again it wont look good on a double tube.. so my only option is to get one of norms (which look good and are built for a double tube) and then send it off to try and get the same camo dip as the shoulder stock i have now.



SAM, id love to get some groups posted but even with a 7.5" tko on the end of it. its a hair to loud for backyard use.. its putting out 22cal mrod numbers on a unshrouded 17in barrel.. so its got a pop to it, i have to wait until i can make it to the lake house.

but i am sending it out to tyler aka tpatner for him to do a video review to showcase lloyd and darrels work on it as well he has something to better tame the bark so id be happy for him to show groupings. should be shipped out to him in the next 2 or so weeks...

[lloyd-ss]

Mike,
Glad you are having fun with this.  If you wanted to, you could swap out the spring for the lighter one. or possibly take the spacer out of the spring that is in there now.  You can tune it up or down depending on what is in store for the day.
Lloyd-ss

[MustangMike]

lloyd i love the carbine thats for sure, its deff a hunter at heart. i figure im going to get a tin of jsb monsters in 22cal and see if i can tune it for 40fpe and the longer extension you sent me looks like it would fit with a doube tube setup. so im shooting for 6 shots at 40fpe

[MustangMike]

updated with some pictures showing the internals of the valve

[TheManFromGeorgetown]

Wow,I didn't see this post,sweet gun,bro!

[1377x]

very nice build!
i take it your hammer face has a recess in it ?? for a longer hammer stroke?
i told you that tko wouldnt tame that bark too
there is a solution but its more than twice the price of the tko bit its worth it
  its funny cause im working on a build similar to yours but im using a don cothran 2260pcp tube.im having the fill adapter pinned instead of threaded. the fill adapter also will be home to the gauge.my valve is heavily modded and my rear cocking hammer assembly weighs in at 94grams, 96grams with the hammer spring.the hammer and guide weigh 70 grams ,the knob weighs 24grams but im having a new knob duilt that weighs 35 grams.i will be filling to 3000-3400psi the safe pressure advised by don c,the valve has 10-32 high strength low profile hex head screws.doubt it will ever see 3400psi unless i get a scba tank
heres to some pics the .041 hammer spring is actually the light hammer spring