beeman R1 vs R9 hold sensitivity

[chito]

Which one of these rifles would be the least hold sensitive? I know the heavier R1 is suppose to be more stable. But I read somewhere that the lighter piston of the R9 made it less hold sensitive.  It makes sense that the lighter the parts moving around inside the less jerk of the gun when fired. Just thought I'd ask you guys to see what you thought about this.

[Mark 611]

It really depends on the rifle! either one can be hold sensitive if things aren't perfect inside the tube! IMO it also depends on the caliber for example the R1 in .177cal is not a good caliber for this power plant and is better suited to the R9 and the R9 in .22cal even tho it is a decent cal for the power plant it doesn't produce enough power where as the R1 is better suited to the .22cal its more stable! now if you try to hot rod an R9 in a .177cal you'll find it becomes very un stable or hold sensitive, JMO and I hope this helps? but I have found that a R1 carbine in .20cal or .22cal seem to be the best rifle HW makes in a break barrel rifle, of course your milage my vary!

[tjk]

I totally agree with Mark. I bought a .177 R1 from him and did a complete over-haul on it including a titan spring and perfectly sized seal. And it was a handful to shoot, but accurate and powerful as could be. I can't imagine how overly sensitive a smaller and lighter R9 would react with the same power,....but I am sure it would not be pleasent to shoot ,....AT ALL!!! Unfortunately, the seal went bust shooting lightweight pellets like silver bears, bear cubs, etc. Proper caliber and pellet weight make a huge difference in the hold sensitivity equation. If I had my drothers, I would much prefer to have my .177 R1 in .22 instead. I already own two R1's in .20 caliber so I've got that caliber covered Over sprung and under sprung guns are either hard to shoot accurately (hold sensitive), or,... in some cases,...leave the shooter wanting a bit more power for the longer shot without the rainbow tradjectory. As Mark said, the R1 is without question ideal in .20 and .22 caliber. If I were to buy an R9/HW95-R11/HW98,...it would be in .177 or .20. HTH's

[chito]

Hey thanks for your in put. When I read that other thread it raised questions about piston weight. But you guys have shown me how there are many other factors to consider as well.