Striker Vs Stoeger X20

[Raizer]

Someone asked on here about what other stocks would fit a Hatsan Striker/Webley ValueMax, I suggested having a look at Stoeger X20 stocks as I had a suspicion they could be close.
Well a X20 came into work for me to fix, so while I had it apart I took the opportunity to compare it to my Striker.
And heres what I found:

Striker on top, X20 lower in all pics -right click, "view image" for larger size (sorry there not great quality  )

You can't tell me that the Striker isnt a B19 clone!

As you can see there pretty darn similar!
I tried to fit the Striker action into the Stoeger stock but it won't fit without a little bit of work, the mount holes and everything line up and the X20 will fit the Hatsan stock.
But the Striker action has a pair of tabs sticking out of the front of the trigger block, grind these down and it should then drop straight in!



Also note the difference in trigger blade length! This is why you can't use a GRT-III or WWT-II trigger in the Hatsan.
To use the Hatsan in the Stoeger stock you will need a GRT-III or WWT-II to fit!
And if you want to do the opposite conversion you would need to use a Striker blade in the Stoeger action and possibly the Striker safety as there is a gap behind the Stoeger action in the Hatsan stock.

Hopefully this helps someone!

[Raizer]

Oh another point of interest IMO is that the Hatsan internals look and feel much higher quality than the Stoeger ones and the Hatsan spring is thicker.
Even the trigger sears are finished nicer on the Hatsan.

[stevemag]

i have an x20 in .22. i does 700 fps with 14.3 grain pellets.
i;ve read the hatsan 95 actually shoots at 800 fps.
is the striker the same gun as the 95? they sure look the same on paper.
i've also seen 2 different 95s. 1 with the weaver type scope mount and sites similar to stoegers, and one more attractive one with  a dovetail  only mount.
i'd like to get a hatsan 22 that shoots 800fps but all those bad reports make me leary of them. any thoughts?

[Raizer]

I think the Striker and the 95 share the same size piston seal diameter, but I don't think there is much else the same on them.

If you think of the Striker as a beefier built x20 you will have the basic idea, obviously there is no Quattro trigger or SAS on the Strikers, but with a touch of work the trigger is really nice!
I haven't come across any Striker/ValueMax owners that have reported problems anything like what was posted here with the 95s and 125s!
Worst I have seen so far was my own, and it only had a few sharp burrs and a tiny sliver of metal in the seal that I really don't think affected performance in anyway at all (I really do mean a tiny raiser thin sliver)

If the .22 X20 has the same spring as the .177 I had apart tonight I would not be in the least surprised if the Hatsan has more power from stock! Even if there both advertised at the same speed lol
/Finally going to chrony mine tomorrow, will let you know how far off they were with there claims in .177 lol -tried to today but didnt have enough light.

Oh and the synthetic stocked Strikers use the same plastic as the 125 Snipers stock, not the cheap glossy looking stuff they used on the 125TH etc.

[fgwhite]

if the stoeger is a b 19 clone could a person use crosman stocks like the titan and the benjiman stocks

[Raizer]

Finally going to chrony mine tomorrow, will let you know how far off they were with there claims in .177 lol -tried to today but didnt have enough light.

Average of 811FPS/12.33FPE, but thats with an overly tight custom seal, going to resize it and try again.

if the stoeger is a b 19 clone could a person use crosman stocks like the titan and the benjiman stocks

I haven't had a Crosman apart as yet, but it would have to be at least very close to fitting I would think!
The older Gamo shadow 1000 I had apart later last night also looks very close to the Stoeger