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mtsheron70
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USA vs. Germany
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June 30, 2012, 09:04:22 PM »
Well I decided to get some table time in and set up my shooters bench and brought out the Benjamin Marauder .25 caliber to go head to head with my German Weihrauch HW97k .22 caliber. Shooting benched at 35 yards at the target.
Setups-
M-Rod:
Fill pressure- 2950 lbs.
Pellet- JSB Exact Kings 25.39 grains
Shot count- 9-13
Assistance: UTG Bi-Pod
Weather- 95 degrees high humidity; no wind.
HW97k:
Tune- Vortek PG2 18+ kit
Pellet- Beeman FTS Copper plated 14.72 grains
Shot count- N/A
Assistance- Caldwell shooters bag
Hold- rest forearm on bag left hand crossover to lightly rest on thumbhole area
Weather- Above
I was surprised with the results. Both shot great and the M-Rod is consistent as ever. But the German Beast barely edged the M-Rod!
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Nomadic Pirate
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Re: USA vs. Germany
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June 30, 2012, 09:27:09 PM »
Springer vs PCP ?
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mtsheron70
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Re: USA vs. Germany
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June 30, 2012, 09:38:06 PM »
Quote from: Nomadic Pirate on June 30, 2012, 09:27:09 PM
Springer vs PCP ?
Yes.....springer vs. PCP.
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thekid
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Re: USA vs. Germany
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June 30, 2012, 09:43:53 PM »
Unbelievable... yet proven twice.
Great shooting from both guns. German Quality speaks for itself.
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amb5500c
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Re: USA vs. Germany
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June 30, 2012, 09:58:43 PM »
Both are good guns.
Richard
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Re: USA vs. Germany
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July 01, 2012, 01:32:11 AM »
very cool both shoot great
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Re: USA vs. Germany
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July 01, 2012, 08:18:10 AM »
Wow, I wouldn't think it would turn out that way!
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mtsheron70
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Re: USA vs. Germany
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July 01, 2012, 08:49:52 AM »
Quote from: nc shooter on July 01, 2012, 08:18:10 AM
Wow, I wouldn't think it would turn out that way!
Me either Ivan! I was amazed. I need to reshoot the match with both rested on the shooters bag so I can say it was equal in every aspect.
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robert w
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Re: USA vs. Germany
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July 01, 2012, 12:28:31 PM »
now you will see german guns with a lot more respect . i thought a pcp was to eat a spring guns lunch . almost looks heads up
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in 1939 hitler said give up your guns and germany will be a safer place... then a short time after all guns were taken ,he told the jews "board the train" a word in histroy
aack73
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Re: USA vs. Germany
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July 01, 2012, 12:40:20 PM »
measured ctc?
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mtsheron70
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Re: USA vs. Germany
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July 01, 2012, 02:29:42 PM »
Quote from: aack73 on July 01, 2012, 12:40:20 PM
measured ctc?
Yep.
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Ahab
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Re: USA vs. Germany
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July 01, 2012, 03:07:03 PM »
I'm not at all surprised.
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aack73
Nitrogen is the way to go :)
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Real Name: Chad
Re: USA vs. Germany
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July 01, 2012, 03:22:26 PM »
i kind of am suprised. not that i doubt the hw97 but i would still guess that the mrod in .25 would out group the hw, even at 35yds. i would expect it to gain in advantage the farther out you go. but hey it's not the 1st time i've been wrong. just my thoughts.
i've shot an mrod in .25 and it was more accurate than my .177.
i know those hw97 are known good shooters as well. so all of you hw97 owners don't flame me. i've wanted one myself for some time now, and i'm more of a pcp/pumper/co2 guy. i want one in .20 stainless.
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barcabarca
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Re: USA vs. Germany
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July 02, 2012, 12:50:41 AM »
Wow! I had similar results at 100 yards My Mrod .22 vs Diana 54 in .22 My MROD does NOT have the cool Green Mountain barrel, because it's a .22. Great shooting though!
My PCP is a bit easier to shoot off handed, but on the bench, it's preetyy close..
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