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fortyshooter · « **Reply #20 on:** May 17, 2012, 08:01:59 PM »

Is the piston a straight diameter through out it's length? If weight is an issue,could you not make several relief cuts in places,to trim some mass and reduce sliding friction?

Paul68 · « **Reply #21 on:** May 17, 2012, 09:42:45 PM »

The piston is beefy and slightly flared at each end. If I were being critical I would just drill the piston to reduce weight and rebalance to account for the tophat, but I think since I'll be later upgrading this to a gas spring, and will be using heavier pellets, the tophat doesn't add enough weight to cause issues. It shoots very well, so it's adequate.

microsalmo · « **Reply #22 on:** May 18, 2012, 12:24:08 PM »

How does she group Paul??

Paul68 · « **Reply #23 on:** May 18, 2012, 01:31:15 PM »

Too danged busy to really sit down and do some accuracy work and it still isn't broke in. Right now it likes Crow Mags and does about 1" to 3/4" at 25 yrds shooting from the knee. Blew a hole through my steel shooting chair from about 30 yrds lol. Looking forward to my chrony arriving next week.

microsalmo · « **Reply #24 on:** May 18, 2012, 01:56:41 PM »

you're gunna go crazy with that chrony

microsalmo · « **Reply #25 on:** May 18, 2012, 01:57:53 PM »

... from what I saw in the returned TH, these guns should be capable of 33 fpe with a tune.

Paul68 · « **Reply #26 on:** May 18, 2012, 08:40:48 PM »

So I go out to meet with a client and take care of some website issues for him. He owns a sporting good store. Right before I am about to leave, he says "Hold on a minute, wanna show ya something".

He then pulls down a new in box Walther Talon Magnum.

"I knew you were into these and they were clearancing em at my supplier, think ya might want it?"

Short story shorter, he got it for next to nuthin, and I got it for nuthin. Well, I'll be giving him a deal on some website work, but for all intents, a nice deal. I haven't even gotten the Sniper squared away yet, and another Hatsan is hiding out in my garage now.

I will say, the Walther looks wayyy better than any of the Hatsans I've gotten so far. Even better than the Sniper. The bluing and finish is actually decent, there's no oil all over it, and the portion of the piston I can see looks like it has clean sharp edges and none of the casting flash. Haven't fired it, and not going to till I tear it down, put in a tophat and lube it, but cocking it halfway produced the familiar dying goose honk.

It's got the two screw stock and quatro trigger.

When I titled this thread "So it begins", I had no idea how true it would be

WHITEFANG · « **Reply #27 on:** May 18, 2012, 10:04:21 PM »

Glad you got a true good gun now and I would bet you will not have the issues you have had with this gun. The Walther 's were good out of the box.

z28rod · « **Reply #28 on:** May 19, 2012, 06:48:29 AM »

Paul, what causes the dreaded dying goose honk ? Brent

Raizer · « **Reply #29 on:** May 19, 2012, 08:36:51 AM »

Quote from: z28rod on May 19, 2012, 06:48:29 AM

Paul, what causes the dreaded dying goose honk ? Brent

unless there's more than one possible cause it's the dry seal rubbing in the compression tube, I think it is meant to go away when the gun is broken in?
My Striker was doing it for a while and was starting to quieten down when I stripped it and lubed it.

Paul68 · « **Reply #30 on:** May 19, 2012, 09:21:04 AM »

Yeah, dry and tight fitting seal. They put some grease on the spring, and when opened up there is clearly oil on the piston, but it seems like a very thin oil. Almost reminds me of solvent or brake fluid rather than oil. I much prefer a very light touch of moly or teflon lube behind the seal to help smooth things during break-in, but that's my personal preference. The standard tuner recommendation is a very thin smear of moly on the piston going about 1" behind the seal during assembly.

Paul68 · « **Reply #31 on:** May 21, 2012, 02:33:26 PM »

It never ends with these things does it?

After less than 500 shots, the trigger on the Sniper has malfunctioned. Cocked the gun and it made a strange clunk sound. The trigger then would not release the piston and the gun would not fire. Jostled it a bit to see if it would misfire. Would not. Broke the barrel open to try recocking and the trigger released in mid stroke. The cocking arm caught the piston, but seems to have been damaged at the contact point between the piston slot and cocking arm. Gun now will not cock, will not close properly, and goes all the way to engagement and the trigger will not engage.

And no, I did nothing to the trigger.

I will tear this pile of garbage down one more time and see if it can be repaired. If not it gets broken in half and thrown in the trash.

mav72 · « **Reply #32 on:** May 21, 2012, 03:30:40 PM »

Thanks for your posts... I've been looking around in this gate, curious about Hatsans... I think I'll wait a few years before thinking about buying one and hopefully the QC gets better, with problems ironed out. I think for the price that they go for, a customer shouldn't be having these problems...

microsalmo · « **Reply #33 on:** May 21, 2012, 03:39:36 PM »

I can't believe what I'm reading. What now?

Paul68 · « **Reply #34 on:** May 21, 2012, 04:01:34 PM »

That was my thought exactly Micro. "What now", except with a few colorful descriptive phrases thrown in. I'll tear it open later, I just don't much care at this point about this rifle.

microsalmo · « **Reply #35 on:** May 21, 2012, 06:12:07 PM »

How did it group?

Paul68 · « **Reply #36 on:** May 21, 2012, 06:59:49 PM »

Was getting about a little over an inch at 25 yrds. It was pellet fussy and would only shoot Crow Mags with any accuracy. Hated everything else I fed it except JSB's which it did about 1 1/2 inch with.

Sent ya an e-mail Steve.

fortyshooter · « **Reply #37 on:** May 21, 2012, 07:45:46 PM »

Wow...sorry to hear about another bad rifle! If this is a .25 cal....I forgot what you had... my Sniper doesn't like the Crow Mags. They seem to have a loose fit when you load them too. The 19.9 H&N fit really well in the chamber and have excellent performance.
If you have damaged parts,will you be making your own?

Paul68 · « **Reply #38 on:** May 21, 2012, 08:33:59 PM »

Wont have to make anything, I think.

I just took the trigger assembly apart. And guess what?......

Wait for it.......

Metal shavings....

The sear was jammed up with metal shavings. UN... Frickin...Real.

Time to see if I can smooth it up.

microsalmo · « **Reply #39 on:** May 21, 2012, 09:58:12 PM »

Geez. This is so tragic. Im really sorry Paul. I have no advice on this one. Im just going to remail speechless.

About that email... HOLLY FREAKIN' SMOKES DUDE!!! You totally stopped the World for me. Thanks for working so hard on that for me. Seriously.

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So it Begins

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