Nitro Venom still driving me crazy

[longislandhunter]

I don't really go along with that entirely.  Will a full tune improve a brand new, out of the box gun?  Of course it will, but that doesn't mean that it's a requirement.  I have plenty of rifles that I bought that shot good right from the box, are still bone stock and still shoot good and I have no intention of either sending them for a tune or tearing them down myself and doing it.  I'm not being "anti tune", far from it as I think a good tune is the best money you can spend on your rifle, but that's if you have the $ to spend on a tune and you want it done.  Just my own personal ramblings  

Jeff

[Jeff in Smithville]

Replacement is on the way back. I guess we'll throw the dice again!

[Petey]

what amazes me is we buy new guns and before we can shoot them they need to be overhauled . what a joke . mabe we shouldnt buy those who need work from the start. i wouldnt buy a new car or truck that needs new engine work before i drive it home just cheep junky quality.

 

I was thinking last night ...why Did I buy this AG. (My Titan LV is giving me grief))
Crosman used to mean you bought something you could own with pride.
Always ready and always there. Just grab it and go. My old pumpers never got cleaned.
They got Used and They oiled..but that's it.  Having to rebuild before use. No .....won't go there again.  My NP is just fine and my Titan is love / hate right now..
However: I bought an AG to go shooting ...not for working on. 
 No more new Crosman's for me. ( I cancelled my pre-order on the NP Pistol)
 I'll  stick to  my Vintage stuff.  Lol.....
I want to see a Trail NP or Venom that still shoots after Fifty or Eighty Years. 

[blaqheart]

Hi guys, A smooth shooting rifle "out of the box" is everyone's dream, however getting one that shoots like a tuned rifle is rare.  I think that manufactures should be more stringent about the quality of their products.  I have a nitro venom that had no lubrication, I have returned a titan gp that had some serious inconsistency [even after 100+ pellets I was getting as much as 80 fps spread between shots, needless to say it did not group], I received a phantom that shoots like a dream, i prefer it to the venom, so i guess u just have to wait for that keeper.