Nitro Venom still driving me crazy

[SquirrelSniper25]

Thanks guys. I don't think it is a pellet issue. Been sharing the same CPHP batch with the Cat. The barrel closing seems very precise--better than the NP Trail in 22, which outshoots it by miles.
I hit the barrel with dry swabs on occasion and have found nothing to be alarmed by.
Latest investigation was yet another change of scope: BSA Essential 3-9 X 40 came off and the "stock issue" Center Point 3-9 X 32 (OK, joke scope, but what the piece comes with) went on and everything that comes loose got tightened. In fact I did an all around scope mount tightening on the other two rifles. Of course that good deed went punished and I had to chase all of them a little. Ah, the wisdom of "if it ain't broke, don't fix it." The Cat and the Trail got back to nice shooting, but the Nitro Venom remained vertically all over the map. Darn thing gave me maybe one ringer through the center diamond, and then it is back to Loony Tunes. Of course, then I am wondering if I have offended the Great Marksman in the Sky and I am doomed to make shotgun patterns one pellet at a time for eternity. So I go get the Big Cat: A couple quick dead on shots, a pause and I notice a horse fly on my back stop. One shot and the the huge fly drops. Life is good and spiritual high fives to the Big Guy.
The Venom is going back to Bloomfield. 

Just because the CPHPs shoot good outta your Cat doesn't mean they should shoot good outta your Nitro Venom. 2 entirely different barrels made by 2 entirely different companies. I just went through the same thing bro and once I found the perfect pellet that my rifle liked I was set.

[Tully]

I hope you find out what is up with yours .I took my out Saturday and it was doing the same thing and then all of the sudden my scope rail fell off .So back to Crosman I guess

[fgwhite]

do you mean the weaver rail that post to be welded or brazed on to the tube just feel off i have a venom nib never shot it the rail on mine is welded on crokid not centered right

[Tully]

Yes just fell off not happy!!!

[fgwhite]

well they must do poor job welding them cause one i have is not centered right

[Mike 4888blues]

Hi Jeff
well remember  re install your venom's trigger  if  they see you removed it it will void  the warranty

[fgwhite]

well newbie here i just figured out how them linkages on the venom get bent from over cocking shot mine this morning and about the 10 shot i kinda pulled down a little to far after gun was cocked did not think i put that much presure but after than shot i looked at it was bent and the next time i cocked it it went way over to the side and started shaveing the stock and on the weaver mount it was not welded on crookid but the frount and back of it where to goes the the recever there was a gap under it i bet in time it would broke off also looks like to me if a person going to use a venom things i would do weld the cocking linkage or order one for a trail and even maby take gun apart and have base tiged up lol   

[Jeff in Smithville]

Will be removing that trigger before sending it back. Wouldn't want Crosman to see what a real trigger looks like.     At least my Weaver rail is still on, last time I looked. Reason I have shot mostly CPHP pellets is that with the non-camfered breech, they were one of the few that fit without getting a kiss on the skirt each time the barrel closed. Don't think it is pellet related, but I'll try others when I get it back. My gut response has been that it was scope related, which would mean that several scopes have come down with same disease at the same time. (Big hmmmm,  maybe give that Weaver rail shake, but I don't think so.)
And so it goes.

[Mike 4888blues]

  I always use a empty pen  to seat the pellets properly . cos if the skirt get damaged even a tad ir will throw the pellets flight off every time
I learned that on pyramid air from Paul Capella   what ever his name is lol

[mlrs_27m]

I use baracudas, and jsb heavies in my .177 venom, and its a tack driver. Powerful and accurate. Its my favorite .177. With the right pellet, it is more accurate then my mrod and Cometa Fusion. You really need to try different pellets before you crucify the gun. I still have the Crosman trigger in mine.

[blaqheart]

i agree barracuda domed pellets work best in my nitro venom.  If you are using the stock scope however you may never get the thing to group!!!  A gun like that deserves a better scope and personally i would like it if they sell the gun minus a scope but include a decent trigger.

[Jeff in Smithville]

Be assured I have tried other scopes that work fine on other springer/gas piston rifles. The original equipment was merely the absolute worst. Will be auditioning other pellets (and I don't mean Daisy!) after it comes back and I put a little camfer on the breach. At this point there is something just wrong with this piece.

[blaqheart]

If all else fails, return it or send it to be tuned.Personally before i used mine i sent it in to be striped down and lubed, the gunsmith told me it was bone dry in the compression chamber.If i had put it through 500 pellets or so being there was no lube,the piston seal would have been history.If the folks at crossman forgot to put lube in a gun what else might they forget.

[se mn airgunner]

New poster, and perhaps you've already resolved your issues.  I too had big problems with a Nitro Venom Dusk .177.  At first, it turned out to be the screws coming loose.  But soon after, despite tightened screws, it was all over.  At one point I actually SAW a pellet after I shot it.   The darn gas piston must have had a leak.  Returned it for a new one and this new one has been working perfectly.  Sighted it in with the first 20 shots, and it has held its zero for the past few hundred shots despite the fact that it usually takes a 100 shots or so to settle in.  Sounds to me like you might have a lemon and should return it.  I went insane trying to figure things out....different pellets, different variations of artillery hold, swapped scopes, etc.  Crosman is hit or miss in my opinion when you buy one of their guns.  Another example, I bought a G1 Extreme a couple of years ago.  Broke soon thereafter.   Returned it and Crosman sent me a Phantom.   That gun has been reliable as all get out.   Like I said, hit or miss.   Just my two cents.....

[pappa]

Jeff in Smithville,

FYI - I have 2 Nitro Venoms in .22 and .177 and they both have had sterling performance since day 1. They are not in the least bothered by scope problems, pellet types or weights or anything else that has been discussed here. They both have GRT3 triggers and the .22 has a Remington summit stock on it and they both have Summit barrel breaks. I have NEVER had the least problem with their performance or accuracy and the .22 has over 50 squirrels to it's credit.

The first Nitro Venom I bought had a weak Nitro Piston in it and I IMMEDIATELY sent it back and received the one that I am bragging about above. No extra cost, no fuss, no muss!

I am only telling this because we just have to realize that sometimes break barrel ARs come from the factory full of problems and it is not worth our time, energy and frustration to keep beating our heads against the wall in trying to fix them when nothing seems to help. As soon as I find an AR that is not performing up to expectations, I call the manufacturer or distributor and put it in their laps; that is what warranties are for.

My heart goes out to you for what this rifle has put you through and I just pray that the one you get back is as good as mine was.

[Jeff in Smithville]

Thanks Pappa, and I am hoping that I have the same luck as I had with the 22 caliber NP Trail All Weather: terrible until I sent it in. Since its return/replacement, it is usually my go-to rifle. The well aged Big Cat gives it a good run, sometimes out shooting it and sometimes not. I am accepting the certainly that I will eventually wade into the world of tuning and tweaking. Need to get a "few" projects out of the way before I take on yet another.

[pappa]

Jeffrey,
Where is Smithville, TX? I was born and raised in the lower Rio Grand Valley and graduated from high school in Edinburg, TX, in 1955.

[Jeff in Smithville]

Well, Smithville is in Bastrop County. East of Austin more or less on Hi Way 71. And near (drum roll) Bastrop. I am actually about equidistant from Smithville or Bastrop, but the tax base, School district, post office and powers that be say I am in Smithville. Your basic Central Texas as opposed to The Valley. Doing a sloooow move from Houston area after 38 years. It is great getting back to the sticks.

[Lambchops]

Anyone here near San Antonio?

[robert w]

what amazes me is we buy new guns and before we can shoot them they need to be overhauled . what a joke . mabe we shouldnt buy those who need work from the start. i wouldnt buy a new car or truck that needs new engine work before i drive it home just cheep junky quality.