Gamo PT-85 Socom is absolutely horrible

[bobster]

This gun is junk.  Pellets are tumbling out the barrel and when they impact the duct seal at only 10 yards they are in all kind of configurations.  Tilted left, up, down, every shot is different.  Some shots are hitting at a 45 degree angle!!  I cleaned the barrel extremely well and you can see machine marks in the barrel that are almost perpendicular to the rifling.  It's really really bad quality in the barrel.  Those machining marks are wreaking havoc on the pellet. 

I love the clip.  Love the metal slide. Love the metal fake brake.  Love the feel of the gun.  But it is 100% worthless.  4-5 inch groups bench rested groups at 10 yards.  The fake brake blocks the iron sites.  No wonder the review at pyramid air said about 15 feet for their target. I would guess that at 20 yards the pellets would be hitting completely sideways.  Just a horrible gun.

[bradyman1]

Gamo does not have the best record for customer service. Where did you get it? Maybe you can send it back? I know you have had your issues with Crosman but you may want to give them another shot. Most of the members on here have nothing but good things to say about them.

[bobster]

I hear you Jason.  I know the 1377/22 design and the CO2 gun designs are very accurate (I was hoping this gamo gun with it's 10 inch barrel would also be accurate). It's the seals and quality control issues that are the problem with the 1377 IMO.  So I guess if a person bought one from mountainair or one of the other builders then the poor quality control would be taken out of the picture because those builders would replace the seals/internals, etc.  I assume they would probably test them too.?