crosman m417 happy owner!

[one_shot]

like many of you,i just couldnt wait to get my hands on 1.
tonight a friend of mine told me his local walmart had 3 of them instock.
he's about 1.5 hour drive,but i had to have one....its the first model m417,not the newer rebadged m4-177.
so i went on over,they had 1 left in a bent box.....i grabed it!
gun looked like it had water spilled on it,then dried up.
seen a few of these go amazon for $150 because the name was changed,its being labeled as a collectors item.

she fires great,dime groups @10 (cphp) with the cheesy peep sites.
we all know peep sights not so good at night too!
later on ill throw on my rws 3-9 if my mounts let her clear!

i woulda prefered the 1077 rotary clip design,but the 760 setup is easy to run with.
the stock is adjustable and removable.

[longislandhunter]

Congrats on the new shooter.  I know I love mine

Jeff

[one_shot]

thanx jeff....whats not love!


stole the scope mounts off my .50 muzzle loader,installed the only scope i had not being used.
new rws 3-9x40.
its a little over sized for this gun,but it will hold me over till i get something compact....like the bug buster i guess.

[oleman]

Doubt if the M417 will ever become a real collectors item - my local Wal-Marts are selling the original in what seems to be large numbers as they are continually stocking their shelves with new boxes. Have not seen a single M4177 box yet - maybe they will become the real collectors item.     

[one_shot]

Doubt if the M417 will ever become a real collectors item - my local Wal-Marts are selling the original in what seems to be large numbers as they are continually stocking their shelves with new boxes. Have not seen a single M4177 box yet - maybe they will become the real collectors item.     

maybe your right,i dont see a name change becomming a collectors item in such a short time.
maybe 40 years from now id be worth something.....name change or not!

i tried destroyers,cphp's,jsb's,gamo red fires,gamo rockets,crosman comps....nothing makes a 1 holer at 10 yards from a bag rest on my bench.
the jsb's were the worst at 1.25 inches.
supprisingly destroyers mahe 4 in a .25 with 1 stray brinnging the group out to .60.
maybe its me,maybe its the new rws scope.
im getting alot of strays.

considering its a pellet/bb combo....cant expect target quality from this barrel.

what are your m417 groups looking like?

[yote300wsm]

one_shot, the stock sights can be made quite serviceable. I took and drilled out the rear one a teeny bit and put the front post in the drill and hit it with a file till I had a nice point. It's kind of nice to have back-up if the scope takes a dump when you are deep in the woods.

[one_shot]

one_shot, the stock sights can be made quite serviceable. I took and drilled out the rear one a teeny bit and put the front post in the drill and hit it with a file till I had a nice point. It's kind of nice to have back-up if the scope takes a dump when you are deep in the woods.

ill have to mod the sight,but peep sight are difficult at night reguardless of size.

[BigErn]

You will love that gun!

Ernesto

[SAADE]

Oneshot: Mine would not group with any pellets I tried, flyers everywhere, quality problems somewhere in the barrel to magazine/probe action I'm guessing. Sent it back, may get another someday.

And yes, the M417 vs M4177 is one of those "urban myths" that will never amount to $5 diff between the two IMO. It's a plastic, mega-mass produced, low end airgun for goodness sake. So the M417 will sell for $80 in ten years, the M4177 for $75? "Rarity" only matters to those to whom it matters, that won't be a ton o' folks IMO.

[poomwah]

Oneshot: Mine would not group with any pellets I tried, flyers everywhere, quality problems somewhere in the barrel to magazine/probe action I'm guessing. Sent it back, may get another someday.

And yes, the M417 vs M4177 is one of those "urban myths" that will never amount to $5 diff between the two IMO. It's a plastic, mega-mass produced, low end airgun for goodness sake. So the M417 will sell for $80 in ten years, the M4177 for $75? "Rarity" only matters to those to whom it matters, that won't be a ton o' folks IMO.

I agree, I think the only time there will be a big difference is right now the way you see a few selling for a stupid high price because of the speculation that they will be a "collectors item". Imagine the guys that are willing to pay 150 dollars for one, how they are going to feel in a few years when its worth the same as all the others.

[SAADE]

poomwah: Get back to the QB78 thread! Are you multi-tasking again!?

[one_shot]

used her quite abit today,took out some starlings out to 20-25 yards,a few soda cans....ect.
just had fun.
easy to use,predictable flight path,flawless opperation.
id love to have a version that can hit 800 fps on 10 pumps.
the 1077 rotary clip would have been nice too.
the current clip setup really isnt bad at all,you lose a few seconds on follow up shots....no big deal.

[one_shot]

heres a quick 15 yard group with the 3-9 zoomed on 4,standing no support,cphp's.

[one_shot]

took some 90 yard shots today.....no accuracy there,upto 1 foot off either direction.
not complaining,suprised she shot that far with a 6 mill hold over.
eliminated cans,bottles,other misc stuff at the inlaws today....a blast to shoot!
this gun max is about 40 yards and still holds fairly good accuracy.

[aack73]

that freehand accuracy with the cphp is outstanding.   nice plinker and capable hunter to maybe 15/25yds.

[Crosshairs]

Great gun and very accurate i was very impressed when i first got mine and shot a group about the size of a nickel with the stock sights. I now have a bug buster scope and hunt small game with no problem. Good luck with your M417.
                                             Mike

[one_shot]

that freehand accuracy with the cphp is outstanding.   nice plinker and capable hunter to maybe 15/25yds.

thanx for the props on the groups bro.
id say effective to 25 30 on any small birds/rats.
for squirrels id keep it inside 15 if possible.

Great gun and very accurate i was very impressed when i first got mine and shot a group about the size of a nickel with the stock sights. I now have a bug buster scope and hunt small game with no problem. Good luck with your M417.
                                             Mike

i been peeping in on your thread mike!
im gonna follow you on the bug buster route.the compact size and function suits the m417 nicely.
thanx!

[one_shot]

sad day today!
my 417 was picked up for about 1 mth.after firing 12 rounds today...something hit the ground.
the barrel band broke into.
after closer inspection....the plastic is brittle,falling apart eaisly.
very sad.

[SAADE]

sad day today!
my 417 was picked up for about 1 mth.after firing 12 rounds today...something hit the ground.
the barrel band broke into.
after closer inspection....the plastic is brittle,falling apart eaisly.
very sad.

Huh?

[one_shot]

a close look shows one side of the break has white stress marks,the other side is a smooth black break....almost like the crack was made in it.
ive contacted crosman,requested a new barrel band.