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microsalmo
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Re: Ruger Air Hawk woes
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December 13, 2011, 03:42:52 PM »
Update... still no response from Umarex. Sad.
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mikeiniowa
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Re: Ruger Air Hawk woes
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December 13, 2011, 10:20:16 PM »
as you opened it up they will likely say no warranty....
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steveiep
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Re: Ruger Air Hawk woes
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December 14, 2011, 03:22:31 PM »
http://www.airrifleheadquarters.com/catalog/item/251485/43075.htm
This is the seal I use in a B25 Thumbhole stock version.
It did need sizing down a fraction, but better than being too loose to start with.
I'm in the UK & know how good the Maccari seals are(also have a Small Apex in my B26 for example)and are cheap enough even after international shipping costs. So, for you "locals" they must be an absolute steal.
There was nothing wrong with my OEM seal, but as I was fitting a tune kit at the time it made sense to upgrade the seal at the same time.
12 months later & still going strong
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SAADE
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Re: Ruger Air Hawk woes
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December 14, 2011, 03:27:02 PM »
Shadow: Our fellow member noted that he "polished" everything? Isn't it true that the compression tube should be slightly rough even cross-hatched/ (maybe rougher than a 125 rms finish?)
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microsalmo
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December 14, 2011, 08:37:22 PM »
look closer Saade. Right after the ...
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hone
is to do what you described in the chamber.
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microsalmo
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Re: Ruger Air Hawk woes
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December 16, 2011, 11:38:54 AM »
Got the new seals from vortch yesterday. Will let everyone know how it goes. I didnt know about you mike. Ill get you on the next one. Thanks for your comments. Are your seals different than the vortch ones?
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mikeiniowa
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Re: Ruger Air Hawk woes
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December 16, 2011, 09:21:59 PM »
I've found the factory seals yeald slightly high velocities in some rifles...
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microsalmo
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December 17, 2011, 07:05:37 PM »
The tune & rebuild went great. I'll report back on if it fixed the accuracy issues. One thing i can say for certain is that the cocking and firing cycle are much improved. The firing cycle is as smooth as my NP guns now... solid "snick," and no twang.
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Re: Ruger Air Hawk woes
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December 18, 2011, 11:27:03 AM »
Was the seal the only part you replaced?
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microsalmo
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Re: Ruger Air Hawk woes
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December 18, 2011, 03:49:49 PM »
Yes, $11 and some elbow grease and its been converted into a good shooter. I used to hate this gun. Now i love it. Funny how work & accomplishment can make you change your mind.
The gun is one holing several types of pellets now, and is super smooth. Its amazing what a seal and a tune will do. This was my first one. I couldnt believe how easy is was and what a difference it made. My "twang" is history... as is my shotgun!
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porkfrog
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Re: Ruger Air Hawk woes
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December 18, 2011, 07:30:58 PM »
Glad to Hear! I too got very satisfying results after tuning mine. I used a Tesla seal though instead. Enjoy!
I don't know about you, but my "twang" was so horrendous. The spring ends were so sharp, they were just digging in and "dang" near twisting the rifle out of my hands with every shot. I'm gonna go back in over the winter and replace the stock thrust washer on the trigger end. It's paper thin, and was looking beat up, but I was too impatient to get it back together..
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microsalmo
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Re: Ruger Air Hawk woes
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December 18, 2011, 08:02:19 PM »
thanks. It was really fun. Mine is paper thin too. Not sure what was causing the twang but it was terrible. All i did to the spring was sand the ends flat on glass with 400 grit paper. I lightly did the outside too. I mollied the washer so maybe it would last? Can i just drop anything in there as a replacement? My spring was pretty dry... maybe that caused it too? Or maybe polishing the tube helped too... i dont know? But its super slick and smooth now. Just a solid snick!
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mikeiniowa
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December 19, 2011, 08:11:54 AM »
get the JM RWS 34 kit, I use them for tuned rifles if requested and they really work good. Some have used the Vortek 34 spring with good results also...
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December 20, 2011, 05:43:36 AM »
microsalmo , you might want to take mikes advise, he has some experience with this stuff..
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microsalmo
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Re: Ruger Air Hawk woes
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December 20, 2011, 07:12:20 AM »
... about what? The thin washer? The gun is fixed now... and much improved too. Do I need the kit because something is going to break? Im not sure what you want me to take his advice about? Thanks - Steve
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December 20, 2011, 09:30:09 AM »
Replace the washer with a hardened one but don't go to thick, some rifles won't cock with thick washers. The factory springs are good but if you want the very best out of the rifle replace with a JM spring kit....
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microsalmo
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Re: Ruger Air Hawk woes
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December 20, 2011, 09:45:03 AM »
got it. Thanks Mike.
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Bentong
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December 20, 2011, 11:05:24 AM »
Good thing you got it all sorted out. Don't it feel good being able to figure out to make it shoot the way you wanted it!
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microsalmo
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Re: Ruger Air Hawk woes
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December 20, 2011, 01:29:31 PM »
Its very fulfilling, yes... and a fun learning experience. Never would have guessed a bad seal could screw things up so bad for accuracy. Thanks GTA.
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daniel hagman
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Reply #39 on:
December 21, 2011, 06:29:05 PM »
would you guys have me steer clear of the ruger airhawk or will the seal wear out on all these guns? i was a bit surprise that the ruger is not made here in the usa. i own ruger firearms and have been very satisfied. i am new to airgunning and am in the process of buying my first nice gun if my sons do not come through at christams.
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