Purchasing first PCP

[Flatlander]

The P-Force is a sharp looking rifle and for $210 is very reasonable.  I do have a chrony already and would be purchasing a hand pump from Amazon more than likely. 

[22Talon]

Honestly I don't have any experience or know much about the force guns.

However it looks similar to the airforce talon type guns but made in China.

I bought a talon as my first PCP airgun as it was pretty much the only new affordable model then.

I found it uncomfortable to hold, and while incredibly accurate, it would shift groups. Or if sight it in and get great groups at 30 yds.

Then one day go hunting and miss a lot, setup targets and see that the group shifted.

People who love those guns mod the heck out of them and I think the Pforce looks like the same type of gun. Buy cheap and then mod or upgrade parts you want. Also not sure on quality control.

Gamo urban has good reputation, warranty and basically a BSA airgun.  From my setting it up and my friends experience with it, I say it's affordable and a very new friendly gun.

Like I said I prefer it to my talon and besides the plastic stock I prefer it to my old Air Arms 410e which back when it was new cost over a grand(I bought used 500 bucks)

Also with the urban you can get parts and service. Not sure on Pforce.

I would definitely recommend the urban, wait for a holiday sale on pyramid, buy that and some pellets to try. Get a hand pump for 50 bucks off Amazon and then a scope plus mounts and you good to go.

The only things I don't like about the urban area: you have to take part of the stock off to adjust power. Stock is cheap plastic feel but seems durable enough and can be upgraded later. And the moderator while effective is cheap looking and glued on. So if you want to upgrade or replace it means melting it off and then having to have the barrel threaded if you want a different one, or use a slip on style.

[avator]

Good deal on an Urban in the classifieds.. better hurry, it probably won't last long. Not my gun.. just a PSA. 

[maraudinglizard]

I have an Urban, it's my all time squirrel gun. Never had a problem with it. Accurate right out of the box. Bought it when it first came out on the market. Still stock, never been modified. Great gun start out on. Good luck.

[Flatlander]

Good deal on an Urban in the classifieds.. better hurry, it probably won't last long. Not my gun.. just a PSA. 

I would, but I just found out I can not buy it on the forum, because I live in IL where the laws here won't allow me to.  I don't live in Chicago, but the whole state is governed by Chicago it would seem. 

[Flatlander]

Any opinions on the Barra 1100z Gen 2 regulated?

[Rick67]

Any opinions on the Barra 1100z Gen 2 regulated?

Google it:

https://www.google.com/search?q=barra+1100z+gen+2+reviews+gateway+site:www.gatewaytoairguns.org&sca_esv=757ae2441d3085b5&rlz=1CDGOYI_enUS916US916&hl=en-US&udm=18&prmd=svin&sxsrf=AE3TifP3gri5-Q36jr4_z2QrI0CE-5_-oA:1749391330664&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwi8oNnG_uGNAxXcDjQIHQ0mHHcQrQJ6BAgdEAY&biw=414&bih=696&dpr=3

[Back_Roads]

 Here is the gen 1, the Gen 2 is even better. Barra has good service and parts available also.


 Barra also offers informative Repair and General Maintenance videos.

https://www.youtube.com/@barraairguns/videos

[Rick67]

Any opinions on the Barra 1100z Gen 2 regulated?

If this is the rifle that you really want, then go for it after you do a research for its pros and cons.

It’s cheap anyway and the reviews seem commendatory as well.

[Flatlander]

Thanks, I always do this when ready to purchase an item, no matter what it is.  Mulling over the details to much, I research the web and ask questions.  The forum has been a great resource and I appreciate the help.  I was pretty much sold on the .177 but after some help here, decided the .22 is a better fit for my needs. 

[Blowpipe Sam]

Hatsan still has Flash refurbs cheap and until midnight on June 9 they have free shipping with the FreeShip code

[Rick67]

Thanks, I always do this when ready to purchase an item, no matter what it is.  Mulling over the details to much, I research the web and ask questions.  The forum has been a great resource and I appreciate the help.  I was pretty much sold on the .177 but after some help here, decided the .22 is a better fit for my needs.

I’m quite the opposite as I don’t actually ask for suggestions or recommendations.

I just choose what I want then do exhaustive research myself.

One primary requirement is that it needs to be good-looking for I am very aesthetics-oriented. Been that way since I was a child 

We all have our own methods 👍

[Robert 5mm]

Good deal on an Urban in the classifieds.. better hurry, it probably won't last long. Not my gun.. just a PSA. 

I would, but I just found out I can not buy it on the forum, because I live in IL where the laws here won't allow me to.  I don't live in Chicago, but the whole state is governed by Chicago it would seem.

In Illinois, air guns larger than .18 caliber and with a muzzle velocity exceeding 700 feet per second are regulated as firearms.
Air guns smaller than .18 caliber even if muzzle velocity exceeds 700 feet per second are not regulated as firearms.

You can buy, ship  and own .177 caliber air guns in Illinois.
Some vendors will not sell or ship to Illinois, without following the law as written.
Some vendors do sell .177 caliber air guns and will ship to Illinois ( depending on Zip code )
Some vendors do sell larger than .18 caliber and will ship to Illinois ( you may need to provide proof of age and an Illinois FOID card )

I live in Southern Illinois - 300 miles south of Chicago - 30 miles to the Ohio River and Kentucky.
You have to learn which vendors you can purchase from or you may ship to an address outside of Illinois.

[Back_Roads]

 Or the Cheapest PCP, you can stick another 200 into it as funds allow
 www.amazon.com/Crosman-C3622S-22-Caliber-PCP-Rifle/dp/B0CT64VG17

[Rick67]

Or the Cheapest PCP, you can stick another 200 into it as funds allow
 www.amazon.com/Crosman-C3622S-22-Caliber-PCP-Rifle/dp/B0CT64VG17

With a steel breech, I’d probably be content with this gun for ratting were I in the Philippines, but here, I don’t think I would give it a 2nd look 😂

[Flatlander]

Good deal on an Urban in the classifieds.. better hurry, it probably won't last long. Not my gun.. just a PSA. 

I would, but I just found out I can not buy it on the forum, because I live in IL where the laws here won't allow me to.  I don't live in Chicago, but the whole state is governed by Chicago it would seem.

In Illinois, air guns larger than .18 caliber and with a muzzle velocity exceeding 700 feet per second are regulated as firearms.
Air guns smaller than .18 caliber even if muzzle velocity exceeds 700 feet per second are not regulated as firearms.

You can buy, ship  and own .177 caliber air guns in Illinois.
Some vendors will not sell or ship to Illinois, without following the law as written.
Some vendors do sell .177 caliber air guns and will ship to Illinois ( depending on Zip code )
Some vendors do sell larger than .18 caliber and will ship to Illinois ( you may need to provide proof of age and an Illinois FOID card )

I live in Southern Illinois - 300 miles south of Chicago - 30 miles to the Ohio River and Kentucky.
You have to learn which vendors you can purchase from or you may ship to an address outside of Illinois.

Thanks.  New to the air gunning world, I wasn't aware how strict IL is on air guns.  I have been aware of this with firearms for some time, it's just ridiculous.   

[TorqueMaster]

In Illinois, air guns larger than .18 caliber and with a muzzle velocity exceeding 700 feet per second are regulated as firearms.
Air guns smaller than .18 caliber even if muzzle velocity exceeds 700 feet per second are not regulated as firearms.

I am a fan of .177 shooting .22 weight pellets.

Seeing how you are in the peeples republik of Illinois, James is really onto something here.  A hot shooting 177 might be the best way to pest...AND avoid any imperial entanglements...