Umarex Markpoint

[bantam5s]

Have any of you bit the bullet on one of these budget friendly plinking pistols yet ?

It sure seems like a much much better value than the Buckmark and Ruger mk4, the adjustable sights are about the only thing I like about my Mk4.
The markpoint I just ordered was $34 + tax & shipping was $47, that ruger cost me about $50+tax & shipping a couple years sho.
If the trigger on the markpoint can be improved to a usable degree I might actually want to cut the rear sight off and epoxy on something adjustable.
I'm going to start looking into what can be done to them.

[buellm2]

I'd be surprised if any budget friendly plinking pistol was a better deal than a P-17 although loading it is a bit of a fumble.  Prices have gone up but they are in the same range as the AGs you mentioned.     Sticking with your question, I don't have any of them.

[bantam5s]

I'd be surprised if any budget friendly plinking pistol was a better deal than a P-17 although loading it is a bit of a fumble.  Prices have gone up but they are in the same range as the AGs you mentioned.     Sticking with your question, I don't have any of them.

I personally hated my p17, the top of the faux slide was murder on my hand.
Even after cutting that dovetail rail off and smoothing everything up I still hated the thing so I just gave it to my cousin who I don't think really ended up liking it either.
It was an accurate pistol with good sights and a good trigger, but I didn't like anything else about the gun or remotely enjoy shooting it.


The umarex markpoint seems like a fun quiet potentially very indoor friendly plinking pistol.
From what I have seen they're relatively accurate, but of course the trigger and sights would be holding them back.
If the trigger mods I saw produce good results, I'll see if I can possibly get a Crosman 357 sight to fit on it.

[buellm2]

"I personally hated my p17, the top of the faux slide was murder on my hand.
Even after cutting that dovetail rail off and smoothing everything up I still hated the thing so I just gave it to my cousin who I don't think really ended up liking it either.
It was an accurate pistol with good sights and a good trigger, but I didn't like anything else about the gun or remotely enjoy shooting it."

Sounds like good reasons to look for a different indoor friendly plinking pistol.

[Matchstickshooter]

Have any of you bit the bullet on one of these budget friendly plinking pistols yet ?

It sure seems like a much much better value than the Buckmark and Ruger mk4, the adjustable sights are about the only thing I like about my Mk4.
The markpoint I just ordered was $34 + tax & shipping was $47, that ruger cost me about $50+tax & shipping a couple years sho.
If the trigger on the markpoint can be improved to a usable degree I might actually want to cut the rear sight off and epoxy on something adjustable.
I'm going to start looking into what can be done to them.

David,
 Nibs of Walnut and Steel on You Tube just put out a video trying out his new Markpoint. It was on this morning.

[bantam5s]

Have any of you bit the bullet on one of these budget friendly plinking pistols yet ?

It sure seems like a much much better value than the Buckmark and Ruger mk4, the adjustable sights are about the only thing I like about my Mk4.
The markpoint I just ordered was $34 + tax & shipping was $47, that ruger cost me about $50+tax & shipping a couple years sho.
If the trigger on the markpoint can be improved to a usable degree I might actually want to cut the rear sight off and epoxy on something adjustable.
I'm going to start looking into what can be done to them.

David,
 Nibs of Walnut and Steel on You Tube just put out a video trying out his new Markpoint. It was on this morning.

His video prompted my purchase.
That gun is just one example though

[Doug Wall]

It will be interesting to see what you think of it. The 17 inch length kind of puts me off, as well as the non-adjustable sights. The light weight, with that length, might be kind of shaky. I have one of the Ruger MK4s, and did a review of it in Hard Air Magazine. I was able to increase the weight some by mixing some lead shot with some silicone caulk, an putting it inside the grip area.
Of course, the real test will be accuracy. Let us know how it is.

[Xraycer]

Amazon delivered my Markpoint on Friday. I immediately opened it up and loaded a pellet. Pulled the trigger and an internal noise was made, but nothing came through the barrel. Broke the barrel open and the pellet was still in there. Tried a few more times, and then black plastic parts started falling out of the gun. Got on phone and started a return to Amazon! Replacement should be here tomorrow.
I did like the weight and feel of the gun. Cocking took minimal effort. The open sight looks terrible to aim through, but at the low price range, it's not a deal breaker........as long as there's decent accuracy. I'll have to wait a bit longer to see.

Also, a couple of weeks ago, I picked up the Ruger MK4 at Tractor Supply. I rather like this gun. Not a good trigger, but the gun is fairly accurate. I don't care for the placement of the safety. As when it's in the firing position, it's up against my right thumb which is rather uncomfortable. Not a deal breaker though.

[Matchstickshooter]

Amazon delivered my Markpoint on Friday. I immediately opened it up and loaded a pellet. Pulled the trigger and an internal noise was made, but nothing came through the barrel. Broke the barrel open and the pellet was still in there. Tried a few more times, and then black plastic parts started falling out of the gun. Got on phone and started a return to Amazon! Replacement should be here tomorrow.
I did like the weight and feel of the gun. Cocking took minimal effort. The open sight looks terrible to aim through, but at the low price range, it's not a deal breaker........as long as there's decent accuracy. I'll have to wait a bit longer to see.

Also, a couple of weeks ago, I picked up the Ruger MK4 at Tractor Supply. I rather like this gun. Not a good trigger, but the gun is fairly accurate. I don't care for the placement of the safety. As when it's in the firing position, it's up against my right thumb which is rather uncomfortable. Not a deal breaker though.

Nibs of Walnut and steel did a review of the Ruger MK4 also and even found a way to lighten the trigger a bit.
 He is also a member here at GTA     
      Nibstools

[bantam5s]

Amazon delivered my Markpoint on Friday. I immediately opened it up and loaded a pellet. Pulled the trigger and an internal noise was made, but nothing came through the barrel. Broke the barrel open and the pellet was still in there. Tried a few more times, and then black plastic parts started falling out of the gun. Got on phone and started a return to Amazon! Replacement should be here tomorrow.
I did like the weight and feel of the gun. Cocking took minimal effort. The open sight looks terrible to aim through, but at the low price range, it's not a deal breaker........as long as there's decent accuracy. I'll have to wait a bit longer to see.

Also, a couple of weeks ago, I picked up the Ruger MK4 at Tractor Supply. I rather like this gun. Not a good trigger, but the gun is fairly accurate. I don't care for the placement of the safety. As when it's in the firing position, it's up against my right thumb which is rather uncomfortable. Not a deal breaker though.

I came up with a way to eliminate the automatic safety and the anti bear trap so you can decock the mk4 and do like it better after those mods I figured out.

[Zsigmund]

Have any of you bit the bullet on one of these budget friendly plinking pistols yet ?

It sure seems like a much much better value than the Buckmark and Ruger mk4, the adjustable sights are about the only thing I like about my Mk4.
The markpoint I just ordered was $34 + tax & shipping was $47, that ruger cost me about $50+tax & shipping a couple years sho.
If the trigger on the markpoint can be improved to a usable degree I might actually want to cut the rear sight off and epoxy on something adjustable.
I'm going to start looking into what can be done to them.

 I bought one a while back for the experience.

 The trigger is pretty heavy, I'll probably look at improving it someday.. 

 Luckily mine is pretty much dead-on with the windage and shoots low at 10 yards. The front sight is tall so a little careful filing should bring it on target.
It's a shame Umarex didn't add a rail, it would be perfect for a cheap optic. Hmmm I have some JB Weld...

[Xraycer]

Amazon delivered my Markpoint on Friday. I immediately opened it up and loaded a pellet. Pulled the trigger and an internal noise was made, but nothing came through the barrel. Broke the barrel open and the pellet was still in there. Tried a few more times, and then black plastic parts started falling out of the gun. Got on phone and started a return to Amazon! Replacement should be here tomorrow.
I did like the weight and feel of the gun. Cocking took minimal effort. The open sight looks terrible to aim through, but at the low price range, it's not a deal breaker........as long as there's decent accuracy. I'll have to wait a bit longer to see.

My replacement arrived 2 days ago, as promised. This one works! Got about 30 rounds through it, yesterday. If you do your part, the gun will hit soda cans easily at 25ft. After +20 shots, it's quite fatiguing on the trigger finger, with that very heavy, bit long trigger.
Its no P17, but for $35, it's not a deal breaker.

[bantam5s]

I just received mine, and it certainly seems to have a decent barrel on it.
The trigger is the worst thing I've ever experienced and the large blocks grip doesn't help with that.

So far I don't really hate this pistol, I'm hopeful that a drastic trigger improvement can be discovered for these.

[Zsigmund]

I just received mine, and it certainly seems to have a decent barrel on it.
The trigger is the worst thing I've ever experienced and the large blocks grip doesn't help with that.

So far I don't really hate this pistol, I'm hopeful that a drastic trigger improvement can be discovered for these.

 I saw this video, but haven't tried it yet.

[Xraycer]

I just received mine, and it certainly seems to have a decent barrel on it.
The trigger is the worst thing I've ever experienced and the large blocks grip doesn't help with that.

So far I don't really hate this pistol, I'm hopeful that a drastic trigger improvement can be discovered for these.

 I saw this video, but haven't tried it yet.

Good find!

[bantam5s]

I saw that video and it's kind of useless,  because he didn't do anything to adress the biggest issue with this trigger which is the pull weight.
Making those minor changes he made are like putting lipstick on a pig.


The best thing you can do is shorten the trigger return spring here.

Just enough to take out the pre-load on this spring, it'll still return the trigger.
If I had one I'd replace it with a lighter weight spring of the same size, because it is still responsible for most of the trigger weight.
Doing this shouldn't have much effect on safety because the Sears have their own springs.

I have no way measure, but it had to be around 10lb before and has gotta be maybe 56lb now.
I also smoothed/ polished the sear points ( no angles were changed), and greased everything.

[Zsigmund]

I saw that video and it's kind of useless,  because he didn't do anything to adress the biggest issue with this trigger which is the pull weight.
Making those minor changes he made are like putting lipstick on a pig.


The best thing you can do is shorten the trigger return spring here.

Just enough to take out the pre-load on this spring, it'll still return the trigger.
If I had one I'd replace it with a lighter weight spring of the same size, because it is still responsible for most of the trigger weight.
Doing this shouldn't have much effect on safety because the Sears have their own springs.

I have no way measure, but it had to be around 10lb before and has gotta be maybe 56lb now.
I also smoothed/ polished the sear points ( no angles were changed), and greased everything.

 That makes a lot of sense. I'll try replacing that trigger return spring with something lighter.
I have no way to measure the stock trigger weight, it's very heavy. Maybe I'll try a digital luggage scale?

[bantam5s]

A lighter spring is most ideal, but shortening the factory spring does make a major improvement.

[Zsigmund]

 Found this much clearer video by searching "Umarex SPA 60" on the youtube.
Reeves's channel has a few vids on the Markpoint-SPA 60 and adjusting the trigger.

 I found a much lighter spring for the trigger bar return position.
It might be a firing pin safety plunger spring from a series 80 Colt, I'm not absolutey sure...

 The trigger is better with the lighter spring and minor polishing, but I'm not finished yet.

 Good Luck! 

[bantam5s]

 Found this much clearer video by searching "Umarex SPA 60" on the youtube.
Reeves's channel has a few vids on the Markpoint-SPA 60 and adjusting the trigger.

 I found a much lighter spring for the trigger bar return position.
It might be a firing pin safety plunger spring from a series 80 Colt, I'm not absolutey sure...

 The trigger is better with the lighter spring and minor polishing, but I'm not finished yet.

 Good Luck! 

Thanks for finding the video.

I may explore the gun further but at this point the gun turned out to be exactly what I expected it to be when I first learned about these months ago and said it was a hard pass for me ( I completely forgot about originally thinking that )
I don't like the sights, it's not that accurate,  it's buzzy & hollow sounding to fire, and the grip is kind of too large.

I think I'm done buying cheap modern guns, this isn't the first time I bought one thinking I'm not expecting too much for the money and as long as I can hit a can at...etc only to be disappointed in the fact that I got exactly what I payed for.

I don't really like much of the contemporary airgun industry at all honestly, but every once in awhile a gun comes along that's kind of interesting and too inexpensive to pass up.
Rarely does it pay off.