Pinty Tactical Airgun.

[avator]

Bill when you get a chance let me know what FPS you are getting with Rabbit Mag II's. Thanks!

NP James...
This wind has gotten pretty crazy here today... probably won't be much shooting until it dies down.
I have to wear my glasses if I got outside because the wind is really blowing the dirt from that stuff around that I pushed off the roof.

[avator]

Based on my average FPS from the JTS 18.1 and the BBT 28 I would guess these will run around 790 - 800 at my current set up at
Reg = 2100
Hammer spring = 3/3 (3 hash marks + 3 on the wheel)
But that's just a guess.. coefficiency might affect it some.

[avator]

Once the barn is completely closed in we plan a 30yd indoor range along one side of it. Then the weather can be whatever it wants. 

[smythsg]

Great news Bill, very pleased you can use the Rabbit Magnums.

[avator]

Great news Bill, very pleased you can use the Rabbit Magnums.

Yep, thank you... I'll put up some numbers when this winds backs off.

[bduares]

Message from Pinty:

Currently, the P-Force tactical air rifles and the returned ones are out of stock now. It's estimated that they will be ready at the end of next month.

It is looking like this might not be a one-off thing.

[Back_Roads]

 Pinty did put some effort into the launch, even having their own videos of the products they were launching. The way they flew off the shelves was a good indicator they would thrive.

[avator]

Changing the name of the line to "P-Force" at this late date to me is an indicator that they plan to continue producing them. Why would they do that otherwise? The tactical was sold out before the name change.

[Blowpipe Sam]

Waiting to see if tariffs affect prices.

[splitbeing]

Maybe we ( GTA ) gave them the name.

I used it in the review - see attached screen print of my review.

Maybe you and we did!  That's awesome.  I feel one with the p-force [chuckling]

[splitbeing]

Waiting to see if tariffs affect prices.

The carbine is still on sale.  Like James, I have found mine to be very accurate with 18gr pellets.  More accurate than the tactical one based on James test and what I've been seeing otherwise.  Nice looking carbine too.  Awesome trigger out of the box. Light and crisp.

[avator]

@ Back Roads (James)..
Those H&N Rabbit IIs are running 755 - 760 at 2100 on the reg, 3 hash marks and 3 on the wheel. They weigh 25.46.

[Back_Roads]

Thanks Bill!

[avator]

I contacted Huben and asked what was the maximum input pressure of the Power Cricket regulator, specifically the ones used in the Pinty P-Force tactical rifle.
This was their response:
HubenPower
The maximum input pressure of our regulator is 4500psi, however, the Pinty Tactical airgun may have some restrictions, please consult the person in charge of the Pinty Tactical airgun to confirm the details.

So now I have a contact message in to Pinty asking the actual max psi of the bottle. I am waiting for a response.
I don't know how to decipher the stamping on the bottle to feel comfortable determining max pressure myself.
Without just guessing, I wonder if anyone here knows.

If it turns out the bottle is limited to 3600 then replacing it with a 4500 psi bottle is doable.

[Back_Roads]

 I personally do not trust those AL bottles past 3650. If planning to up the bottle capacity I would definitely go with a carbon fiber. As for what the guns internals can handle only Pinty can say, or someone takes one apart and specs it out. A 2200 reg set point is about as high as I would set the reg at also.

[avator]

Yep, I get that about max reg setting. I wouldn't push that too far either. My goal, if I go this route, would be increasing max fill pressure to increase shot count. Being that the max input on the reg has been confirmed by Huben then increasing the input to it should have zero affect on the internals of the gun beyond the reg.

Thank you for the reply James... I didn't take into account that the OEM bottle was aluminum.

[splitbeing]

Anybody dabble in lowering the reg set point and seeing what power and shot count you can get?

The high set point on all these pinty's seems oddly high to me.  Not complaining and will probably leave the good thing I got goin as is, but curious (and also famous last words sometimes [chuckling]).


Also, anybody try long range yet?

[cosmic]

I tried to increase the regulator to 22 mpa and the velocity drop to 600-700 fps.. Also I have a superwell that I tried to increase the pressure to 22mpa and the adjusting screw would fall out if increased more.. Nick from Huben power is sending me a cricket in it place..  I don't think there is enough hammer to open the valve all the way.. Anyone have any ideas..

[avator]

All I have adjusted thus far is the hammer spring wheel. I posted a spread sheet with my typical setting above.
Yesterday I shot a bunch of my cast NOE 217 24 RF Magnum pellets that weigh right in the 22.40gr. They are shooting very will with this gun which makes me a happy boy.
My typical range here at home is 40 - 45 yds but I do have a farm disc blade out at 80 yds and have no problem reaching out there with 1" give or take accuracy. That is with a 3.5 mildot holdover from my 40yd setpoint.
It still gives a nice "ring" through the woods.. I would say a well placed shot would be quite affective.. 

[TorqueMaster]

Anybody dabble in lowering the reg set point and seeing what power and shot count you can get?

The high set point on all these pinty's seems oddly high to me.  Not complaining and will probably leave the good thing I got goin as is, but curious (and also famous last words sometimes [chuckling]).


Also, anybody try long range yet?

Mine came set at 12.5 MPa (~1800psi)
Hammer spring is too strong -- velocity is the same at lowest 7 notches and increases slightly at 8th and 9th -- which I presume is due to hammer bounce.

At minimum spring setting CPHPs are getting ~970FPS, and I got 80 shots from 24MPa down to 12MPa.
If the spring were able to go lighter, I expect same/similar velocity and better shot count.

Precision is quite adequate -- got ~1/2" 5-shot group at 25 yards (AA18s) with unfixed trigger and non-parallax adjustable scope, so it has room to improve.

Regarding the tank, I believe the markings on mine say it is ok up to 30MPa (4350 psi) HOWEVER I am going to play it safer, and obey the manual which says 25MPa max fill (3600psi.)