Pinty Tactical Airgun.

[Katoomer360]

I just received my rifle.  Arrived in perfect condition with bolt handle off, in the bag.  So, they are listening.

[cosmic]

If anyone disassembled the trigger completely....   Start by putting in the sear and the pin, then the transfer bar, spring and pin, the the trigger, pin and spring.. The sear spring drop through the top of the trigger plate... I still haven't figured out the safety yet...
    But after Troy's sear modification I guess my trigger is under a pound.. (my trigger pull scale is mechanical and it is not good for that light of a pull..)
   If you missed it...
P-Force.. 3400 psi, regulator at 150bar or (15 mpa) ..

  JTS Dead Center 16.08gr. around 920 fps.. Power wheel set to one.. (Center the screw on the last tick mark closest to the breech..)
  Olympia slugs, Don't know if it to large or to long 25 gr.  755fps, One +12 (Center the screw on the last tick mark closest to the breech +12 on the dial)   (Need to slug the barrel)
  AVS .2193 22gr. dish base..  830 fps,  1.0 on power wheel... (Last tick mark, closest to the breech, center the screw..) I also have a super-well that I am trying... I will let you know.

[Robert 5mm]

This is how I discribe the Power Wheel ( Hammer ) dial settings:

No hammer spring preset ( at muzzle ) to maximun ( at breech end )

To use a gauge similar to the Air Forcr Talon ( the tick marks are labeled 2 - 12 from muzzle to breech) lowest at muzzle to highest at breech.

The P-Force has 9 tick marks - not labeled and the rotary dial 0-16.

So my discription of +1 Tick mark and 0 on dial would be a low hammer spring preset ( turn dial through 0-16 to get to 1st tick mark )
+ 1 1/2 would be +1 Tick mark plus 8 on dial ( or half way to +2 Tick mark )

The highest hammer preset would be at +9 Tick mark plus max on rotary dial ( maybe 16 ) - closest to breech.

I am currently at +1 - 0 for a low hammer preset and I am getting 820 fps shooting JTS 18.1 gn with reg at 14 mp.

[avator]

Thank you for the break down Robert.
Tracking has my THammer sear arriving Friday. I sent mine to him on Monday so my gun is on the bench waiting for reassembly. I swabbed a bit of Stainless Steel lube with a qtip on the pins and contact points.

[TorqueMaster]

I got mine a few days ago, have not taken time to play with it. 

Robert,
I had to read that a couple times to make sense -- not having used an AF I just figured the wheel went from 1 to 16 -- I see now it takes a whole lot of 1 through 16 full rotations to go from low to high, 1 to 9 as you defined them.  Yours seems as good a scale reference as any.

In any case, to muddle matters even more, I also noticed one full rotation does not equal one tick mark.  That would make far too much sense!  If I counted right, it takes 12 full rotations to travel 8 tickmarks. 12 x 16 / 8 = 24 "numbers" or 1.5 full rotations per tick.  12 "numbers" per half-tick.  So your "1-1/2" would be 12 counts (numbers) past the first (lowest) tick mark.

I think a few users were settling around "2-1/2" for a decent tune -- which I thought was the numbered wheel -- but now I see they were probably counting ticks, and I don't know if they considered that first tick "0" or "1."  Lol, the joys of unmarked scales!

[avator]

That threw me at first too..
When I got the gun it was at 0 air pressure and the power was set at 0 ticks. I aired the gun up and the first shot just puttered out the barrel. I began turning up the power wheel and it didn't seem like it was going anywhere. I finally got it to move to 3 ticks and it shot with some authority.
That is where my chrono string is that I posted in this thread.
UPS has moved delivery of the THammer sear from Friday to tomorrow so it looks like I can get it back together and finish fine tuning.

[Katoomer360]

Mine was delivered with the power wheel fully towards the breech, the exact opposite of yours. @avator.  Thanks for that detailed explanation. @Robert 5mm.  I haven't shot mine yet, hopefully this weekend. 

I 3D printed, both long and short, moderators from thingiverse, to try out.

I want to shoot it some before I reshape the sear.

[bduares]

Speaking of moderators, I printed this one and it is wonderful. It even semi-tames my Sumatra 2500

https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:4947322

[smythsg]

Interesting Jared, thanks. I have the same printer that the author has and may try one of those. Just curious, how long did it take for yours to print? What ft lbs is your Sumatra pushing through the moderator?

[bduares]

Interesting Jared, thanks. I have the same printer that the author has and may try one of those. Just curious, how long did it take for yours to print? What ft lbs is your Sumatra pushing through the moderator?

It takes just under 7 hours for mine to print at 100% infill and I am pushing over 70 fpe through the Sumatra

[smythsg]

Nice, thanks Jared

[Robert 5mm]

In any case, to muddle matters even more, I also noticed one full rotation does not equal one tick mark.  That would make far too much sense! 

Sorry for the poor description for how the rotary and slide gauges work.
Simple = Rotary dial moves Slide from muzzle (low preset) to breech (high preset).

On my P-Force, I did not rotate as far to count very much, my #1 tick was a full rotation ( 16 ) to go from muzzle to 1st tick,
then 10 on rotary to 2nd tick. Not consistant.

My AirForce Talon has rotary 1-16 ( one rotation ) to go from one tick to next - on all. Ticks are 1-13 but only labeled even # 2 thru 12.

[avator]

In any case, to muddle matters even more, I also noticed one full rotation does not equal one tick mark.  That would make far too much sense! 

Sorry for the poor description for how the rotary and slide gauges work.
Simple = Rotary dial moves Slide from muzzle (low preset) to breech (high preset).

On my P-Force, I did not rotate as far to count very much, my #1 tick was a full rotation ( 16 ) to go from muzzle to 1st tick,
then 10 on rotary to 2nd tick. Not consistant.

My AirForce Talon has rotary 1-16 ( one rotation ) to go from one tick to next - on all. Ticks are 1-13 but only labeled even # 2 thru 12.

I understood every word of your post.

[Robert 5mm]

I understood every word of your post.

That is because of being an Ohio Buckeye ( or Da.. Yankee )

( I was born in Toledo and I also lived in Alabama, so of course you would understand )

[avator]

I understood every word of your post.

That is because of being an Ohio Buckeye ( or Da.. Yankee )

( I was born in Toledo and I also lived in Alabama, so of course you would understand )

LOL   I knew it had to be something.

[TorqueMaster]

Speaking of moderators, I printed this one and it is wonderful. It even semi-tames my Sumatra 2500

https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:4947322

...and it's gone.  Probably some Karen protecting us from ourselves.   Can you attach the STL please?

[TorqueMaster]

In any case, to muddle matters even more, I also noticed one full rotation does not equal one tick mark.  That would make far too much sense! 

Sorry for the poor description for how the rotary and slide gauges work.
Simple = Rotary dial moves Slide from muzzle (low preset) to breech (high preset).

Robert, Your description was fine, I just had to have the gun in front of me to get it all through my thick skull.  It sounds like the P-Force designers also "borrowed" the 1-16 wheel numbering, but didn't bother to make the ticks line up with full wheel rotations.  Just call it "quirky."   

3rd tick, thanks Avator.

[avator]

I just gotta say...
If y'all have this gun and you haven't got one of THammer's trigger sears yet... do yourself a favor.

WOW !!!

I mean, I really liked the gun before but now, for me anyways, it's over the top... for the money spent.

[bduares]

Speaking of moderators, I printed this one and it is wonderful. It even semi-tames my Sumatra 2500

https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:4947322

...and it's gone.  Probably some Karen protecting us from ourselves.   Can you attach the STL please?

Here you go

[bduares]

Here's a shorty version of that as well