PINTY Scopes Now Sells PCP's

[PelletSport]

Pinty Scopes now sells 3 pcp's for $279msrp and $260 shipped on ebay.
The wood stocked long rifle and bullpup appear to be SPA manufactured and unregulated.
The third is a copy of an Airforce Airguns model. I couldn't find one like it under SPA or Artemis, so I don't know who makes it.
I always wanted to try an Airforce but couldn't justify the price for such an odd duck, so if this copy turns out to be a winner I'd buy it  secondhand, for sure, maybe even new

[PelletSport]

It's the Snowpeak M 18. Okay, I want one, haha.

[Back_Roads]

 It is a decent rifle for the price point, accuracy is there for sure . I am getting a solid 30 fpe with Norma 17.6 gr pellets, have not tried any other ammo as these were cheap and work

[Xraycer]

Already got a thread  running for the past couple of weeks.
https://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=217402.0

[smythsg]

For those that just happen by this post, the Bullpup is regulated. The guns do have some Snowpeak DNA, but are probably not manufactured by Snowpeak.

[bduares]

Pinty also having a $40 off sale   code PCP4A

[SpindleB]

Pinty also having a $40 off sale   code PCP4A

BLACK20 gets you $55
All caps

[Whirligig]

Pinty also having a $40 off sale   code PCP4A

BLACK20 gets you $55
All caps

That's the code that convinced me to click the "Place Order" button. Their "9 Pellet .22Cal Bullpup PCP Air Gun High Power for Small Game Hunting Shooting" is scheduled to arrive tomorrow.

https://pintydevices.com/products/9-pellet-pcp-air-gun-pcp-qm23-24

280cc tank at 3600 PSI!

-W

[smythsg]

Excellent, looking forward to your impressions of the QM23!

[Hoosier Daddy]

I have been craving that Talon Kock-Off for the price point...
https://pintydevices.com/products/pcp-pellet-gun-air-rifle-with-850-fps-velocity-picatinny-rail

[billygee]

Not to discourage any commitment toward a product, I have been trying to put together some reviews on both these PCP knockoff''s
Seems it becomes a personal preference on both of these products,

So dealing with China Clones on my mods (including Springers) I find tolerance (metal to metal clearance) are somewhat a factor, where shimming to make up excessive space (or play) is one, others can mean loose fitting parts
I also find keep these products that have wear areas, or tight clamped metal to metal contact should be "KEPT WELL Lubed", for their grade metals wear faster then expected if not lubed periodically

So far some have experienced loose bolt tolerance issues on the Piny"s Rail M-18 along with leakers on the QM23 Bullpup,
So on closing DYI might find some challenges on these knockoff's

Bill 

[bduares]

Not to discourage any commitment toward a product, I have been trying to put together some reviews on both these PCP knockoff''s

Just typing QM-23 in the search bar on YouTube provides at least 8 reviews that have been online for about a month now, albeit in Spanish and from Chile.

So far I have had my QM-23 for a week and have shot a half dozen mags through it without any problems at all, as have the majority or people who actually bought the guns. People who actually buy PCP airguns and stick with them are already the hands on DIY modification type people. It is a requirement that comes with the hobby. No matter where it is made and by whom every single PCP air gun is going to need hands on work.   

The QM-23 is accurate, well made, and works. It is also not a "knockoff" since it has too many design changes to be a clone of anything. You can see Artemis P15 and P35 DNA in it, and it likely is made in the same factory, but the amount of parts new and different from a P15/35 is probably at least equal to the amount of same already existing parts from them.

[smythsg]

+1 Jared, I have shot about the same amount through my QM23 with no issues as well. (Incessant rain has prevented more use) I do agree that there are some tolerance issues where shimming could make a difference (trigger, etc) but my gun shoots well out of the box. Would I be happy if I spent a $1000 on the rifle... probably not, but for a couple hundred I suspect it will provide a great value and a lot of fun.

[splitbeing]

How loud is the report on the talon looking one?

How many shots you figure getting off a 3000 or 3200 psi fill? I hand pump.

[billygee]

Not to discourage any commitment toward a product, I have been trying to put together some reviews on both these PCP knockoff''s

Just typing QM-23 in the search bar on YouTube provides at least 8 reviews that have been online for about a month now, albeit in Spanish and from Chile.
 People who actually buy PCP airguns and stick with them are already the hands on DIY modification type people. It is a requirement that comes with the hobby. No matter where it is made and by whom every single PCP air gun is going to need hands on work.   

The QM-23 is accurate, well made, and works. It is also not a "knockoff" since it has too many design changes to be a clone of anything. You can see Artemis P15 and P35 DNA in it, and it likely is made in the same factory, but the amount of parts new and different from a P15/35 is probably at least equal to the amount of same already existing parts from them.

Thanks Jared Interesting find

I'm curious as to what the regulator factory Bar setting is ?
Guessing from reading some crony specs  must be 125 - 135
Have you attempted to adjust yours yet ?

even though my preference is a Long Gun I convinced myself this Bullpup is unique in it's own way
So when it arrives there will be a comparison to my others

Bill

[bduares]

I have not taken it apart yet. I watched the tear down video and saw where the regulator is. To get to it pretty much requires a full disassembly and I don't want to get into that yet, especially with it shooting fine. There are 2 large screw heads on the back of the receiver, one of which I am sure has the hammer spring behind it. Whether or not it is adjustable there I do not know yet either. Hopefully it is.

So far the only complaint I have, and I am not alone in it, is the location of the safety. With it being part of the trigger it is very easy to press it in slightly and make your trigger suddenly either become very hard or impossible to pull. I am not sure what I am going to do to mine. Either live with it, grind down the ridge a bit on the trigger guard that it is supposed to catch on, or just remove it entirely. Once I learned it was what was making the trigger act up I just adjusted how I shoot it and I haven't had any further issues.

[billygee]

I have not taken it apart yet. I watched the tear down video and saw where the regulator is. To get to it pretty much requires a full disassembly and I don't want to get into that yet, especially with it shooting fine. There are 2 large screw heads on the back of the receiver, one of which I am sure has the hammer spring behind it. Whether or not it is adjustable there I do not know yet either. Hopefully it is.

you are right on disassembling, but after that, adjustments should become accessed from the front
 
I believe I saw the same video, disassembling the regulator having Belleville Spring Washers,
(air tube resembles my Hatsan  At44-10)

he reassembled setting the regulator loose to 100bar then was to readjust from the front after he chronograph it,
his next video was to be about that front setting, have not seen any follow up on it yet ?

Guess I'll just have to have patients till mine arrives. Was there any info. in the manual on any adjustments ? 

Bill

[Whirligig]

Mine arrived today. I posted my initial impression in the "So.....what did you shoot today?" Gate.

I'd post a link, but I think that may be against the GTA forum rules.

In a nutshell, it's a great air rifle, even if the rotary mags require an odd method of being loaded.

Unboxing video below. Apologies in advance for the bad camerawork.



-W

[AKM]

Cool kitty. Was there an Airgun in the video? 

[bduares]

In a nutshell, it's a great air rifle, even if the rotary mags require an odd method of being loaded.

What is odd about the way you have to load your magazine? Mine have the same loading method used by Umarex, Air Venturi, Diana, Artemis, and AEA guns, etc, where you rotate the clear plastic cover which winds the spring and push in one pellet through the back and then load the rest through the other clear side.