Author Topic: Airforce Knockoff or reseller? (Read 11113 times))

avator · « **Reply #120 on:** February 13, 2025, 05:34:44 AM »

Anyone know anything about the support available on these guns? Too soon?

SpindleB · « **Reply #121 on:** February 13, 2025, 06:27:57 AM »

Quote from: avator on February 13, 2025, 05:34:44 AM

Anyone know anything about the support available on these guns? Too soon?

Ricklin on AGN:
"My rifle is boxed and patiently waiting for Pinty to provide a label, They offered a shipping label for return or a 50 dollar discount on the rifle. "

smythsg · « **Reply #122 on:** February 13, 2025, 07:44:42 AM »

I have had some back and forth with Pinty Support. They are there and do respond, but have very limited knowledge of the air rifles. Parts are not available through Pinty and so far, they have not offered up the name of the manufacturer. Like the Notos, these rifles are going to depend on GTA folks to dissect and dissseminate information about the rifles, and they do have great promise for the money spent. Some parts from existing Snowpeak guns may work with Pinty rifles, but my QM23 is not a direct clone of either the P15 or the P35 so some parts are unique to this rifle. If the guns become as widely available as the Notos, maybe the manufacturer will step up ( with a little help from our GTA friends).

avator · « **Reply #123 on:** February 13, 2025, 08:43:17 AM »

Not sure if it's been mentioned but if you look under payment options there is a place to select more options. If you click on that there is the PayPal option for those of you who prefer to use PayPal.

smythsg · « **Reply #124 on:** February 13, 2025, 03:52:11 PM »

The sky finally parted and let a little sunshine through this afternoon so I waded (we got 5.25 inches rain in the last three days) out to the fence line (16 yards) and set up another target. With the Sig Romeo 2 MOA red dot and 72 year old eyes I was still able to shoot one ragged hole with 10 shots from the QM23. All total I put four more mags through the rifle and the action has become quite smooth. The chrony still shows me shooting 861 fps with the Apolo 18 gn domes and the reg seems to be pretty happy. The wind has jumped up to 20-25 with higher gusts, so longer range shooting will not work this afternoon.

There is a fair amount of lateral play in the trigger and the safety has very little clearance, so the trigger tends to rub on the safety nub sometimes which causes errant shots.The trigger feels quite good when it doesn't rub, but it will need some work to mitigate that safety. Between chrony work and target shooting about 36 shots went down range and the birds in the vicinity never left the bird feeders, so my birds are calling the rifle "back yard friendly" at least at this power level.

I want to kick the power level up to 880 fps with the 18 gn pellets, but my chrony battery died so that will have to wait for the next round. I'm also running out of the Apolo 18 gn pellets so will have to order a couple more tins.

The QM23 feels rock solid, and once I get the safety issue sorted this one may become my favorite yard gun to date!

bduares · « **Reply #125 on:** February 13, 2025, 04:15:10 PM »

From the tear-down video I saw on the QM-23 it is a PITA to change the regulator setting since you have to disassemble the whole rifle to get to it. If one of the 2 large screw heads on the back of the receiver actually increase hammer spring tension that might up my fps a little bit, but I haven't tried that yet

smythsg · « **Reply #126 on:** February 13, 2025, 04:56:48 PM »

The lower screw that you can get to with the stock on is the hammer spring adjuster. Screwing it in will increase your fps and backing it back out will decrease. Mine is still flush with the back from the factory as well but I will play with it once I get a new battery for the chrony. I was able to shim that hammer spring on my P12 with some small washers to get max power at 40 ft lbs with that bullpup.

I took the stock off and filed the safety nub down a bit, but it needs to go a bit farther to keep the trigger from rubbing that nub. While I had the stock off I checked tightness of any screws that I came across and most were fairly loose. I recommend checking all the screws holding the gun together to make sure they are snug. (just snug, not overly tight)

smythsg · « **Reply #127 on:** February 14, 2025, 01:51:56 PM »

Looks like my QM23 is falling off the reg at right around 150 BAR. (at least on my gague give or take a smidge)

billygee · « **Reply #128 on:** February 14, 2025, 04:31:17 PM »

Quote from: smythsg on February 14, 2025, 01:51:56 PM

Looks like my QM23 is falling off the reg at right around 150 BAR. (at least on my gague give or take a smidge)

Steve @ 150bar pushing 2175.5psi should bring some slugs into play, have you tried any yet ?

Bill

smythsg · « **Reply #129 on:** February 14, 2025, 04:51:29 PM »

Bill, I did shoot some 21gn Apolo slugs across the chrony and they shot about 800 fps. Have not tried them at range yet, but plan to do so very soon. More weather coming in tonight so may be another couple days before able to shoot outside again.

Played with the hammer spring adjuster a bit this afternoon on the QM23 and it didn't have much travel and made little difference in the velocity of the 18 gn pellets. Will wait and see if anyone else has any different results. I did finish filing the safety nub on my trigger and it made a significant difference now that the trigger blade/safety is not rubbing when the safety is off. The trigger is light and smooth now and I probably will not make any other changes to it as it breaks in more.

smythsg · « **Reply #130 on:** February 14, 2025, 05:35:35 PM »

Bill, decided to try the 21 gn Apolo pellets at my 16 yard target and the results were inconsistant. Even though my Airforce Escape UL loves those slugs I am not too sure that the qM23 will do the same. Of course it doesn't mean that it won't shoot some other slugs better, just the Apolo slugs are the only .22cal slugs I have.

smythsg · « **Reply #131 on:** February 14, 2025, 05:36:13 PM »

Sorry, Apolo slugs...

Back_Roads · « **Reply #132 on:** February 14, 2025, 05:47:59 PM »

Have not had a chance to do any shooting outside at longer ranges, but did put my P-Force through the extreme winter testing all still functions even in cold air

Tomorrow may be a balmy 30f for awhile so I am itching to get some lead laid on targets at 50 yards.
Might have to call the Bullpup the P-Bullpup, and the carbine the P-Carbine LOL

billygee · « **Reply #133 on:** February 14, 2025, 05:55:33 PM »

Quote from: smythsg on February 14, 2025, 05:36:13 PM

Sorry, Apolo slugs...

Thanks for the heads-up on slugs, with all my posts keep forgetting to ask do you know if it has a choked barrel ?

Bill

Back_Roads · « **Reply #134 on:** February 16, 2025, 03:57:14 AM »

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smythsg · « **Reply #135 on:** February 16, 2025, 09:21:55 AM »

Felines keep stealing the show! You must have been targeting a tuna can...hehe

Robert 5mm · « **Reply #136 on:** February 16, 2025, 10:21:00 AM »

Quote from: Back_Roads on February 16, 2025, 03:57:14 AM

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James - your date-time stamp on your camera needs updating.

avator · « **Reply #137 on:** February 16, 2025, 10:21:58 AM »

Quote from: Robert 5mm on February 16, 2025, 10:21:00 AM

Quote from: Back_Roads on February 16, 2025, 03:57:14 AM
. . . and now for our feature presentation
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James - your date-time stamp on your camera needs updating.

LOL yeah.. I was like... wait, when did that gun come out?

Back_Roads · « **Reply #138 on:** February 16, 2025, 10:47:35 AM »

Quote from: avator on February 16, 2025, 10:21:58 AM

Quote from: Robert 5mm on February 16, 2025, 10:21:00 AM
Quote from: Back_Roads on February 16, 2025, 03:57:14 AM
. . . and now for our feature presentation
Staring Sky and the M18 P-Force.

James - your date-time stamp on your camera needs updating.
LOL yeah.. I was like... wait, when did that gun come out?

I pre ordered the rifle

avator · « **Reply #139 on:** February 16, 2025, 11:51:36 AM »

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Airforce Knockoff or reseller?

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