HW80 arrived today

[Ike the GSD]

The rifle is like new and it shoots accurately, but it's the most twangy air rifle I've ever fired LOL I think I'm going to have a lot of fun with it👍

[Frank in Fairfield]

Wes,
I have had my R1 since 1984.
I raised two combat veterans with that rifle.
I did not know anything about twang until I joined GTA around 2011.

All of my springers are as they were when they left the factories.
Check the list.
I enjoy twang, whatever it is:

[Lt. Dan]

I don't mind a little twang either. Congratulations on your new rifle.

[Ike the GSD]

Wes,
I have had my R1 since 1984.
I raised two combat veterans with that rifle.
I did not know anything about twang until I joined GTA around 2011.

All of my springers are as they were when they left the factories.
Check the list.
I enjoy twang, whatever it is:

Well it's more of a boinkbzzz sound rather than a twang like a banjo string, I just used the word twang because it's used so frequently here. The rifle isn't shooting to factory spec either, I'm guessing it's around 13.5 ft lbs right now.

[Ike the GSD]

I don't mind a little twang either. Congratulations on your new rifle.

This is more than "a little twang" LOL!! Thanks for the congrats Dan 👍

[Mark 611]

Tuner up Wes, she'll be fine!

[Ike the GSD]

Tuner up Wes, she'll be fine!

Since I talked with you last, I fired quite a few more pellets through her and she's still dieseling like a new rifle? Do you think it might gain a little power once I put a tin of pellets through it? If it doesn't, I'm thinking a new piston and breech seal might be in order, but if I have to install those I might as well install a hotrod spring too👍😁

[Yogi]

Tuner up Wes, she'll be fine!

Since I talked with you last, I fired quite a few more pellets through her and she's still dieseling like a new rifle? Do you think it might gain a little power once I put a tin of pellets through it? If it doesn't, I'm thinking a new piston and breech seal might be in order, but if I have to install those I might as well install a hotrod spring too👍😁

Usually dieseling adds a little fps.  When it stops it should slow down.  After 50-75 pellets you should stop seeing smoke in the breech when you reload.

-Y

[Ike the GSD]

Tuner up Wes, she'll be fine!

Since I talked with you last, I fired quite a few more pellets through her and she's still dieseling like a new rifle? Do you think it might gain a little power once I put a tin of pellets through it? If it doesn't, I'm thinking a new piston and breech seal might be in order, but if I have to install those I might as well install a hotrod spring too👍😁

Usually dieseling adds a little fps.  When it stops it should slow down.  After 50-75 pellets you should stop seeing smoke in the breech when you reload.

-Y

I'm not really seeing any smoke, I just smell it in the air when I go down range to check/change my targets? Mark thinks the piston seal might be bad, the rifle was made in 2013 and has never been opened up, so maybe the piston seal has deteriorated, but I'm going to shoot it a while more to see if anything improves.👍

[Frank in Fairfield]

Doc Beeman used to preach that it took 1000 shots for everything to fall into place .
Don’t be impatient.

Read this: https://www.airgunsofarizona.com/blog/2014/06/the-tale-of-a-smoking-gun-a-springer-story.html

In 1984 Beeman said the R1 would shoot 930fps.
With what pellet, we do not know:

My R1 with factory internals after 300,000 shots shooting AA 8.64 gr pellet shoots like this:

[Toxylon]

1 000 pellets is a good initial course for any new quality springer, I agree. Many guns go through a semi-miraculous transformation from it, no tuning involved. Severe twang from ill-fitting guides doesn't go away, though.

On a factory-lubed gun, dieseling affects the MV's long past any visible dieseling. In my experience, they never stop getting extra oomph from ignited petroleum products, 1 000 or 2 000 pellets in and all. That takes a thorough degrease and relube job (usually reseal, as well) to happen.

ETA: I see Wes' 80 is not new, only new to him. But having no detailed info on the gun's use and maintenance history, much of the above would apply.

[Ike the GSD]

1 000 pellets is a good initial course for any new quality springer, I agree. Many guns go through a semi-miraculous transformation from it, no tuning involved. Severe twang from ill-fitting guides doesn't go away, though.

On a factory-lubed gun, dieseling affects the MV's long past any visible dieseling. In my experience, they never stop getting extra oomph from ignited petroleum products, 1 000 or 2 000 pellets in and all. That takes a thorough degrease and relube job (usually reseal, as well) to happen.

ETA: I see Wes' 80 is not new, only new to him. But having no detailed info on the gun's use and maintenance history, much of the above would apply.

I can only speculate how much the rifle has been shot, but it can't be much, I think the previous owner must have shot it a few times (less than a tin) and put it away. As I've mentioned, the rifle is like new. It's gained some power since I've been shooting it, we'll just have to see how much it improves with continued shooting. The rifle was made in 2013 by the way.

[dalvipravin]

Congratulations !!

These are well built rifles and will lost generations , don't bother much on twang that will go down as you shoot a tin of pellets .

Enjoy : )