What about the HW85

[Ike the GSD]

I was looking at these on the Weihrauch website and Krale and for some reason they catch my eye. I like the looks of the longer barrel and I think it would be a perfect rifle for mounting a peep sight on. If anybody owns one I'd sure like to hear from you, I'm interested in the .177 cal.👍

[Keesbo]

The HW85 is the first smaller brother of the HW80. The R1 in the US

The HW85 was the version with the longer barrel and the HW85k the version with the 10cm smaller barrel.

Later came the HW95. It was the same as the HW85k with the exception that the front sights had a fixed insert. Stock on both guns were the same.
Than came the HW95 Luxus, it had the inter changeable front sight inserts, just like the HW85k. But the stock was longer, so the intire breechblock was in the stock.

Now those version of the HW85 are over.
There is now a HW85 Luxus and a HW95 Luxus. Completely the same, accept in barrel lengt.

[Crowman]

I have the 85 in both .177 and .22. I love these rifles. I believe they have the same innards as the 95-98 models. So easy to jack. I plan on putting Diopters on one. I just had my eyes done last week, couldn’t see before. It will deliver any thing your capeable of. I’d love one in .20 cal. Good luck. Crow

[Yogi]

I believe the HW 85 was a model that was made by a company that Weihrauch purchase.  I think it was BSF??
After the purchase, Weihrauch just kept their model and renamed it.
Others know more...

-Yogi

[Ike the GSD]

Thank you for the replies guys👍  Crowman have you ever put your .177 HW85 over a chronograph? I'd be interested to know if it was any faster than the HW95?
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[Keesbo]

Thank you for the replies guys👍  Crowman have you ever put your .177 HW85 over a chronograph? I'd be interested to know if it was any faster than the HW95?
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The guns internals are the same.

HW85/95/98 all have the same power plant.

[Ike the GSD]

Thank you for the replies guys👍  Crowman have you ever put your .177 HW85 over a chronograph? I'd be interested to know if it was any faster than the HW95?
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The guns internals are the same.

HW85/95/98 all have the same power plant.

Ok thanks Keesbo👍

[Crowman]

I did Jan. 22/23. JSB 8.44 average 887 fps. My R9, HW98 were almost identical. The HW95 was 895 fps. All fairly tight. Done in winter.  The HW98 has a Vortec spring. Others never opened. Crow

[Jason_Garvin]

I have one that is pre-laser etch and love it.  It is my dedicated factory iron sight rifle, shoots close to 900 fps, and the longer barrel makes cocking easier.  Not sure how diopters would work with the stock without trying it.  If one were seeking a slower tune, you might migrate towards a K barrel. 

Jason

[KWK]

Threaded trigger block and removable dovetail rail is the old BSF derived version. Like a Beeman R10.

Dovetails cut into the receiver is an HW95 action newer model. Trigger block is not threaded on.

[Deerstalker]

My HW95L specs and maybe overkill.

HW95L Specifications:
HW95L   26
Bore Diameter Piston Seal Size (mm)   85 Piston Stroke (mm)   45.13 Piston Swept Volume (cc)   3x15 Transfer Port x Length (mm)   0.106 Transfer Port Volume (cc)   426:1 SCR   254 Piston
Weight in Grams (g)
SCR = Static Compression Ratio, has little to no meaning for a pellet rifle.
Pellet Rifle Swept Volume formula:  Rifle bore radius squared x Pi (3.14159) x piston stroke = cubed mm.  Convert to cubed centimeter by moving decimal point 3 positions left. 
Example: HW95L .22 caliber 26 mm Bore radius = 13 squared (1/2 diameter) = 169 mm x Pi (3.14159) = 530.929 x HW95L Stroke 85 = 45,128.9 mm cubed.  Convert to CC (cubic centimeter) = 45.128 or 45.13 CC for Swept Volume.
FPS = Feet Per Second, MPS = Meters Per Second, FPE = Foot Pounds of Energy. 
To convert to Joules multiply FPE by 1.3558,  Joules to FPE multiply by .7376
To convert MPS to FPS,  MPS x 3.2808399 =  FPS .      
To convert FPS to MPS,  FPS x .3048 =  MPS.         
                     
FPE Formula is Pellet weight (gr) x FPS x FPS divided by 450240 or 450436.7.
                     
450240 is 2 x velocity of gravity x 7000, (2 x 32.16 x 7000 = 450240)
450436.7 is 2 x velocity of gravity x 7000, (2 x 32.17405 x 7000 = 450436.7)
The constant 450240 or 450436.7 depends on which value you use for the velocity of gravity, (acceleration due to gravity).
32.16 ft/s/s or 32.17405 ft/s/s.  There are 7000 grains in one pound. 
The difference does not matter which ever constant is used for the FPE calculation.    

HW95L factory spring.  34 coils & 11.375” long.   

HW95L rifle/scope = 139.3 oz which is 8 lbs. 11.2 oz.
https://www.weihrauch-database.eu/dywp  Date your rifle by Serial Number.
Hawke 4-16 x 44 mm Compact, IR, SF scope.
LOP = 14.25”, 362 mm, trigger to center butt.  WIN M70 30-06 = 13.875", 349.25 mm, CVA Accura V2 50 BP = 14.5", 368.3 mm.  Note - LOP = length of pull measured from trigger to center butt.  CofG = 4.25” in front of trigger blade & 18.25” to center butt.
 
Rifle was received on 8/11/2020 from AoA.  HW95 introduced in 1995 by Weihrauch.
Moderator weighs 4.32 oz, 122.6 g, 1892 gr.  Barrel without moderator = 12.188”, (12-3/16”, 309.575 mm), from thread end to breech block end.  Moderator is 6” long.  Female threads start 2.1” in from beveled end of Moderator.  Thread is 3/4" long & 1/2" diameter with 20 threads per inch.  Barrel length = 15.75”, 400 mm,  from end of moderator to breech block end. HW95 barrel is 16 mm diameter & rifle twist rate is 1:16.   HW95L total rifle length = 41.875”, 1063.625 mm, from end of moderator to butt center.  Rifle is 29”, 736.6 mm, from end of moderator to end of compression tube.
17 FPE HW95L .22 with moderator shot cycle using iPhone recording at about 5’.

The Hawke tactical medium rings put the center line of the 44 mm scope 1.5” above the HW95L .22 caliber rifle bore.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bywPFmB2_ZM



 

[Ike the GSD]

My HW95L specs and maybe overkill.

HW95L Specifications:
HW95L   26
Bore Diameter Piston Seal Size (mm)   85 Piston Stroke (mm)   45.13 Piston Swept Volume (cc)   3x15 Transfer Port x Length (mm)   0.106 Transfer Port Volume (cc)   426:1 SCR   254 Piston
Weight in Grams (g)
SCR = Static Compression Ratio, has little to no meaning for a pellet rifle.
Pellet Rifle Swept Volume formula:  Rifle bore radius squared x Pi (3.14159) x piston stroke = cubed mm.  Convert to cubed centimeter by moving decimal point 3 positions left. 
Example: HW95L .22 caliber 26 mm Bore radius = 13 squared (1/2 diameter) = 169 mm x Pi (3.14159) = 530.929 x HW95L Stroke 85 = 45,128.9 mm cubed.  Convert to CC (cubic centimeter) = 45.128 or 45.13 CC for Swept Volume.
FPS = Feet Per Second, MPS = Meters Per Second, FPE = Foot Pounds of Energy. 
To convert to Joules multiply FPE by 1.3558,  Joules to FPE multiply by .7376
To convert MPS to FPS,  MPS x 3.2808399 =  FPS .      
To convert FPS to MPS,  FPS x .3048 =  MPS.         
                     
FPE Formula is Pellet weight (gr) x FPS x FPS divided by 450240 or 450436.7.
                     
450240 is 2 x velocity of gravity x 7000, (2 x 32.16 x 7000 = 450240)
450436.7 is 2 x velocity of gravity x 7000, (2 x 32.17405 x 7000 = 450436.7)
The constant 450240 or 450436.7 depends on which value you use for the velocity of gravity, (acceleration due to gravity).
32.16 ft/s/s or 32.17405 ft/s/s.  There are 7000 grains in one pound. 
The difference does not matter which ever constant is used for the FPE calculation.    

HW95L factory spring.  34 coils & 11.375” long.   

HW95L rifle/scope = 139.3 oz which is 8 lbs. 11.2 oz.
https://www.weihrauch-database.eu/dywp  Date your rifle by Serial Number.
Hawke 4-16 x 44 mm Compact, IR, SF scope.
LOP = 14.25”, 362 mm, trigger to center butt.  WIN M70 30-06 = 13.875", 349.25 mm, CVA Accura V2 50 BP = 14.5", 368.3 mm.  Note - LOP = length of pull measured from trigger to center butt.  CofG = 4.25” in front of trigger blade & 18.25” to center butt.
 
Rifle was received on 8/11/2020 from AoA.  HW95 introduced in 1995 by Weihrauch.
Moderator weighs 4.32 oz, 122.6 g, 1892 gr.  Barrel without moderator = 12.188”, (12-3/16”, 309.575 mm), from thread end to breech block end.  Moderator is 6” long.  Female threads start 2.1” in from beveled end of Moderator.  Thread is 3/4" long & 1/2" diameter with 20 threads per inch.  Barrel length = 15.75”, 400 mm,  from end of moderator to breech block end. HW95 barrel is 16 mm diameter & rifle twist rate is 1:16.   HW95L total rifle length = 41.875”, 1063.625 mm, from end of moderator to butt center.  Rifle is 29”, 736.6 mm, from end of moderator to end of compression tube.
17 FPE HW95L .22 with moderator shot cycle using iPhone recording at about 5’.

The Hawke tactical medium rings put the center line of the 44 mm scope 1.5” above the HW95L .22 caliber rifle bore.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bywPFmB2_ZM

Thanks for the detailed report Dave, much appreciated👍

[Yogi]

My HW95L specs and maybe overkill.

HW95L Specifications:
HW95L   26
Bore Diameter Piston Seal Size (mm)   85 Piston Stroke (mm)   45.13 Piston Swept Volume (cc)   3x15 Transfer Port x Length (mm)   0.106 Transfer Port Volume (cc)   426:1 SCR   254 Piston
Weight in Grams (g)
SCR = Static Compression Ratio, has little to no meaning for a pellet rifle.
Pellet Rifle Swept Volume formula:  Rifle bore radius squared x Pi (3.14159) x piston stroke = cubed mm.  Convert to cubed centimeter by moving decimal point 3 positions left. 
Example: HW95L .22 caliber 26 mm Bore radius = 13 squared (1/2 diameter) = 169 mm x Pi (3.14159) = 530.929 x HW95L Stroke 85 = 45,128.9 mm cubed.  Convert to CC (cubic centimeter) = 45.128 or 45.13 CC for Swept Volume.
FPS = Feet Per Second, MPS = Meters Per Second, FPE = Foot Pounds of Energy. 
To convert to Joules multiply FPE by 1.3558,  Joules to FPE multiply by .7376
To convert MPS to FPS,  MPS x 3.2808399 =  FPS .      
To convert FPS to MPS,  FPS x .3048 =  MPS.         
                     
FPE Formula is Pellet weight (gr) x FPS x FPS divided by 450240 or 450436.7.
                     
450240 is 2 x velocity of gravity x 7000, (2 x 32.16 x 7000 = 450240)
450436.7 is 2 x velocity of gravity x 7000, (2 x 32.17405 x 7000 = 450436.7)
The constant 450240 or 450436.7 depends on which value you use for the velocity of gravity, (acceleration due to gravity).
32.16 ft/s/s or 32.17405 ft/s/s.  There are 7000 grains in one pound. 
The difference does not matter which ever constant is used for the FPE calculation.    

HW95L factory spring.  34 coils & 11.375” long.   

HW95L rifle/scope = 139.3 oz which is 8 lbs. 11.2 oz.
https://www.weihrauch-database.eu/dywp  Date your rifle by Serial Number.
Hawke 4-16 x 44 mm Compact, IR, SF scope.
LOP = 14.25”, 362 mm, trigger to center butt.  WIN M70 30-06 = 13.875", 349.25 mm, CVA Accura V2 50 BP = 14.5", 368.3 mm.  Note - LOP = length of pull measured from trigger to center butt.  CofG = 4.25” in front of trigger blade & 18.25” to center butt.
 
Rifle was received on 8/11/2020 from AoA.  HW95 introduced in 1995 by Weihrauch.
Moderator weighs 4.32 oz, 122.6 g, 1892 gr.  Barrel without moderator = 12.188”, (12-3/16”, 309.575 mm), from thread end to breech block end.  Moderator is 6” long.  Female threads start 2.1” in from beveled end of Moderator.  Thread is 3/4" long & 1/2" diameter with 20 threads per inch.  Barrel length = 15.75”, 400 mm,  from end of moderator to breech block end. HW95 barrel is 16 mm diameter & rifle twist rate is 1:16.   HW95L total rifle length = 41.875”, 1063.625 mm, from end of moderator to butt center.  Rifle is 29”, 736.6 mm, from end of moderator to end of compression tube.
17 FPE HW95L .22 with moderator shot cycle using iPhone recording at about 5’.

The Hawke tactical medium rings put the center line of the 44 mm scope 1.5” above the HW95L .22 caliber rifle bore.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bywPFmB2_ZM

Dave,

What moderator are you using?  Did it come with your original purchase, or was it added later?

TIA,

Yogi

[Deerstalker]

Factory moderator on my 2018 year HW95L .22.

[Yogi]

Factory moderator on my 2018 year HW95L .22.

Thanks,

-Y

[Ike the GSD]

This rifle is really nice I want one so bad, it's so attractive❤👁👁
https://www.mundilar.net/en/air-rifles/weihrauch-air-rifles/air-rifle-weihrauch-hw98-match.html#/optional_scope-none/gun_bag_case-none/available_versions-5_50mm_22_20_joule