Looking at a new PCP, but so many options

[eyeguy74]

I've been looking and looking at different rifles and I think I've settled on a HW110 carbine. Problem is, for just a little more, there may be something better, and then for a little more there may be something better. Before you know it, you're at $3k. I'm not doing competitive shooting, but I want a fine rifle that will give me many years of good service. It appears that the HW110 could very well fit the bill for my uses, mainly back yard starling thinning and target practice. I get a lot of enjoyment from shooting, but a 30 minute drive to the closest range, which can be shady at times, to target practice with a .22 is essentially a waste of time anymore.
So, I've been doing a little searching around a here and there, and I feel like the HW110 could be a perfect balance between price, features, noise, accuracy, and quality.
What say you guys?

[eeler1]

I say buy it.  If you don’t like it, you can sell it and recoup part of your money.  Don’t forget to spring for a decent scope too.

[jus Tom]

I own an HW 110 in .177 and use it pretty much as you want one for... have taken quite a few back yard undesirable birds and small pests, a very accurate shooter with 8 - 10gr quality ammo.  The 110 was my go-to rifle for a long time 'til I bought a Daystate Revere in .177.... now I tend to reach for it first. 

[eyeguy74]

Don’t forget to spring for a decent scope too.

Most definitely!! A good scope and a good compressor.

[eyeguy74]

I own an HW 110 in .177 and use it pretty much as you want one for... have taken quite a few back yard undesirable birds and small pests, a very accurate shooter with 8 - 10gr quality ammo.  The 110 was my go-to rifle for a long time 'til I bought a Daystate Revere in .177.... now I tend to reach for it first. 

I looked at it for a good while. I may go revisit the Daystate guns again before I make that final purchase.

[kbstingwing]

the Weihrauch HW110 is a very good gun, very high quality, I have several HW100's in .22, I like the 14 shot magazines, I can also 3D print Magazines for the HW100 from online sources, they are excellent rifles with laser accuracy and will last for decades with a few O-ring replacements just like all PCP's, Daystate is a very high quality gun too, the Revere is about the same price as a HW100, get ready to go down the Rabbit hole and be welcomed to the Dark side.....

[eyeguy74]

the Weihrauch HW110 is a very good gun, very high quality, I have several HW100's in .22, I like the 14 shot magazines, I can also 3D print Magazines for the HW100 from online sources, they are excellent rifles with laser accuracy and will last for decades with a few O-ring replacements just like all PCP's, Daystate is a very high quality gun too, the Revere is about the same price as a HW100, get ready to go down the Rabbit hole and be welcomed to the Dark side.....

Its a deep hole, for sure!!
I'm learning a lot, and the more I learn, the more I find that I need to keep learning.
One thing I really like is the below the rail magazine and the simplicity of the magazine itself.

[kbstingwing]

the Weihrauch HW110 is a very good gun, very high quality, I have several HW100's in .22, I like the 14 shot magazines, I can also 3D print Magazines for the HW100 from online sources, they are excellent rifles with laser accuracy and will last for decades with a few O-ring replacements just like all PCP's, Daystate is a very high quality gun too, the Revere is about the same price as a HW100, get ready to go down the Rabbit hole and be welcomed to the Dark side.....

Its a deep hole, for sure!!
I'm learning a lot, and the more I learn, the more I find that I need to keep learning.
One thing I really like is the below the rail magazine and the simplicity of the magazine itself.

they are the best designed magazine out there, never any problems, they always work.

[anti-squirrel]

Buy once, cry once.  Definitely true for PCPs.  Tinkering is fine, and pretty fun, but for your desires, spend a little and enjoy the fruits of your expenditures.  Quality glass is worth it with higher-end PCPs, too.  Be sure to invest on a few different pellets to find the best choice, too.

[eyeguy74]

Buy once, cry once.  Definitely true for PCPs.  Tinkering is fine, and pretty fun, but for your desires, spend a little and enjoy the fruits of your expenditures.  Quality glass is worth it with higher-end PCPs, too.  Be sure to invest on a few different pellets to find the best choice, too.

That's the plan. I think the HW110 is a really good deal with all the features.
As far as glass goes, I'll likely stick to Leupold. When it comes to pellets, I'll see which one the HW110 seems to like most, based on other folks' results, then sway a little bit both ways as far as weight, and pick the best of the group. I hope to keep it within 5 different pellets, but for sure will test until I find the sweet spot.
I think for me, a .22 is the overall best option. A .177 would probably work fine 99% of the time, but a .22 would be a tad overkill some of the time, and I'm OK with that.

[kbstingwing]

From what I've heard, JSB 18's work great, JSB Hades 15's up to 50 yards, also Crossman domes and Norma heavy domes 17's, JTS pellets too

[eyeguy74]

From what I've heard, JSB 18's work great, JSB Hades 15's up to 50 yards, also Crossman domes and Norma heavy domes 17's, JTS pellets too

The JSB 18's will likely be what I settle on, based on what I've read here, but you never know for sure until you try several. Build specs would say that what works well in one should work nearly the same in another, but we all know how that works out in real life.

[avator]

I don't know if "buy once, cry once" is the norm in the airgun community. I don't know many airgunners who only own one airgun. I prefer  a variety myself and I can't afford all of them to be the top of the line. It's hard to eat steak on a bologna budget but at the end of the day, it all comes out the same. 

[tennx]

I don't know if "buy once, cry once" is the norm in the airgun community. I don't know many airgunners who only own one airgun. I prefer  a variety myself and I can't afford all of them to be the top of the line. It's hard to eat steak on a bologna budget but at the end of the day, it all comes out the same. 

I like the variety  that comes with the hobby…one day it might be BB guns,next C02..etc…I was naive in thinking I could get by with a couple of guns……LOL…u folks taught me different …that and the flavor of the week + the dreaded bargain gate..good luck

PS…I mentioned the other day hobby had run its course…I think/hope I was talking about acquiring more guns…I like to be some what organized and Ive literally run out of space…but we know about famous last words and I aint even famous….😉

[anti-squirrel]

Hades are likely a good starting point, well... JSBs in general are good.  Short range, might be worth some RWS Meisterkugeln wadcutters (everything likes those at lower velocities) but that's ONLY if you dial down power.  Might be worth trying NSAs and some other slugs for giggles, but honestly, JSB domes and Hades cover most needs.

The buy-once-cry-once mantra is good in theory.  I didn't comply myself, but I have a small handful of really good shooters ranging in price from cheap (SPA PP700) up to the Lelya 2.0.

Down the road, if ya get bit by the bug hard, try a big bore.  We have 2 9mm PCPs; a ShinSung lever-action and a SPA M-25.  The 1st is a deer slayer and helped a buddy fill his freezer last fall.  The M-25 is just outsized fun on targets at range (it is big and looooong).

[avator]

Never thought I was a tactical looking gun kinda guy... until I got my hands on the Umarex NOTOS. Now it's never too far out of my reach.

[eyeguy74]

Hades are likely a good starting point, well... JSBs in general are good.  Short range, might be worth some RWS Meisterkugeln wadcutters (everything likes those at lower velocities) but that's ONLY if you dial down power.  Might be worth trying NSAs and some other slugs for giggles, but honestly, JSB domes and Hades cover most needs.

The buy-once-cry-once mantra is good in theory.  I didn't comply myself, but I have a small handful of really good shooters ranging in price from cheap (SPA PP700) up to the Lelya 2.0.

Down the road, if ya get bit by the bug hard, try a big bore.  We have 2 9mm PCPs; a ShinSung lever-action and a SPA M-25.  The 1st is a deer slayer and helped a buddy fill his freezer last fall.  The M-25 is just outsized fun on targets at range (it is big and looooong).

I never would have thought a PCP, or any air rifle for that matter, could take down a deer!!
See, I really am new to the whole air rifle game. In my mind, pellet rifles were just for small game and pests, but deer!? I'm not a hunter by any means, but I'm kind of thinking that it could cut down on damage that a .300 Win Mag would cause. That's a really great idea!!

[eyeguy74]

Never thought I was a tactical looking gun kinda guy... until I got my hands on the Umarex NOTOS. Now it's never too far out of my reach.

I looked at the tactical ones, but I'm still not sure I'd like one. Now, if Buck Rail were to come out with a stock for the HW110, I could probably be swayed. I have looked at the Gunnar a few times. I do like the minimalist design, but not sure about the quality. I just don't know enough about it.

[Back_Roads]

 Get a good air compressor, bottle, and decent mid range gun, take it from there.
I have way too many airguns to tell anyone what one to get

[avator]

Never thought I was a tactical looking gun kinda guy... until I got my hands on the Umarex NOTOS. Now it's never too far out of my reach.

I looked at the tactical ones, but I'm still not sure I'd like one. Now, if Buck Rail were to come out with a stock for the HW110, I could probably be swayed. I have looked at the Gunnar a few times. I do like the minimalist design, but not sure about the quality. I just don't know enough about it.

I may have misled a bit. I'm still not a tactical gun kinda guy and will probably not own another one. I just like this little NOTOS.