Must be .177, must be quiet - is a HW30/R7 the right fit?

[Rick67]

On mine, I just used what was free with the rifle.

The aluminum piece on the left (the right one, I never utilized) with male and female threads is what screws into the tube, so I had a machinist fashion a female nipple.

[AntiRodentTaskForce]

Fortitude.

What is the case for buying this, instead of a used AA s200 ?

Is there a reason to consider, beyond the 100-200 price difference?

[Rick67]

The Fortitude is regulated, has excellent CS and parts b’up, doesn’t need a silencer, and cheaper 

A MROD LW barrel is also a drop-in case you want to increase the accuracy even more, although I haven’t had a inaccurate .177 Crosman barrel.

In fairness, the S200’s very accurate, durable, and simple to work on as well—trigger’s also very good when adjusted.

You simply can’t go wrong with either 👍

[avator]

Fortitude.

What is the case for buying this, instead of a used AA s200 ?

Is there a reason to consider, beyond the 100-200 price difference?

For me it is the perfect combination of the features from the PRod and the MRod.
The AA s200 is discontinued. The Fortitude is not and carries a 5 year warranty.
The Fortitude is regulated. (shot count) Yeah, the AA has a pretty "beech" stock but the synthetic stock of the Fortitude makes it light weight and will take the abuse of packing it through the woods.
Crosman has great CS.
Here are the specs. You can compare.

[avator]

NT

[splitbeing]

I agree with Bill. Fortitude.

[avator]

I agree with Bill. Fortitude.

Great shot count and mags are cheap and available. I like to have enough mags to cover a full fill.

[splitbeing]

My rig is tuned to about 620 fps with 8.64 spitzkugel pellets. Getting under 200 shots with an ES of under 40 on a good day. 
I hand pump only. A once a week pump up to 3k, Great short range hosp & paper puncher with this tune.  Quietest gun in my arsenal at present.

[avator]

I get it though...
There was a couple that lived across the dirt road from us. They both worked at the same place I did. He working in the stamping dept. and she in the office. They both bought brand new top of the line vehicles every couple years to drive to the same place everyday as I was happy driving to in my used 2006 Nissan.
We all do what makes us happy.

[Robert 5mm]

I have a few PCP's ( some cheaper - some not )

I have both the .177 and .22 Fortitude.

Both Fortitudes shoot Crosman pellets very well and are quiet.

OP should buy something to try, if it does not meet desires, sell it and buy something else. ( or keep them all )

[Yogi]

Keep this up and this should be moved to the PCP gate!

-Y

[Rick67]

Keep this up and this should be moved to the PCP gate!

-Y

…or buy both to remain here 

[AntiRodentTaskForce]

Keep this up and this should be moved to the PCP gate!

-Y

I'm trying my best to land there soon!  Watch this space.

[Yogi]

Keep this up and this should be moved to the PCP gate!

-Y

I'm trying my best to land there soon!  Watch this space.

I you do, do not post here.  Post in the PCP gate please.

-Y

[AntiRodentTaskForce]

Rob, if you are open to used, I'd definitely consider PCP, but you'll need to be careful to get a model that allows for doable and practical filling via a hand pump to stay within your budget. If you have to go compressor, you'll spend your entire budget just on that. Going used, though, may get you a rifle with a hand pump. And don't forget a moderator. Without a moderator, PCPs can be very loud with more of a high pitched crack.

The trick here is to select a gun with a small volume reservoir or lower psi or a combination of both. Here's a couple I've picked up over the years.

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Here's another one that is easy to fill with a pump. It's a now discontinued CZ 200 S(Sporter) in 177 that I also bought used. Ran me $350, no moderator, no pump, but I already had a pump. The CZ 200S runs at 3000 psi, but it uses a smaller volume reservoir, so also 50 pumps or so to fill. With this one, though, I get 60 shots at 750 fps, similar in power then to my HW50 springer. Higher quality throughout than the Disco - much better trigger and more accurate to boot. Easy sub inch shooter at 50 yards. Just a delightful, handy, fun to shoot PCP. One of my favorite air guns, period. You'd have to go add on moderator, but those are easy to find.


The big advantage to PCP for my shooting is the better average group size, of course, but more importantly for your purposes, PCPs are much less sensitive to change in hold or shooting position than springers. Definitely a better choice for improvised, grab and shoot kind of situations. Note, too, no air gun rated scope needed.

To put a cap on this thread:  I ended up finding a cz200 (red laminate) in fine condition, and bought it from a seller over on another forum.   New hand pump and used scope are on the way.   

This post above helped turn the tide for me.  Thank you, North Country Gal, for your insights.

Thank you to all who contributed thoughts, to help me make a big (for me) purchase decision.  You'll see me in the PCP gateway with future posts. 

[north country gal]

Glad you've found what works for you. Congrats.