Diana 34 Clone

[lillysdad621]

Now that is a warranty!!! when the tuner prompts you to send the gun in, that is standing behind yourbwork… thank you Mike. This is why we buy airguns from You. Bravo!

[Methuselah]

If the rifle came from FDAR originally it is under warranty until opened by customer.....just send  it in with a note, will fix or replace....

Hi Mike! I'm told it did, it has your extra screw trigger mod :-)

I'd like to make sure it's not me not knowing how to shoot it before I did that. Chrono just now:

714
702.7
702.7
694.8
715.7
703.5
690.9
707.5
714.8
689.4

Crosman Premere Hollow Points, 14.3 gr.
3.7%,16.3 fpe?

If I send me in, can you fix me ;-)

[lillysdad621]

If I send me in, can you fix me ;-)

+1. God knows "I" could use a tune, and my trigger is a little to light... (and my main spring is probably bent, or just broken... My wife says i could use new seals, especially after mexican food)lol.

Those numbers are still pretty hot. generally they settle down in the 660 to 670 range, and they are quite consistent. Are you sure that gun has 750+ shots through it? it just seems to me as a rifle that has not settled in yet. I had 2 of them in .22, and one was a 650 fps gun, and the other i detuned even further (590 fps). but they were consistent (maybe within 5 fps) and very easy to shoot accurately. I mean, your gun is shooting an avg of 703.6 fps and the variation between the lowest shot and highest is about 26 fps. i would shoot it some more, clean the bore and do a breach seal test.

[gmupatriot2010]

If I send me in, can you fix me ;-)

+1. God knows "I" could use a tune, and my trigger is a little to light... (and my main spring is probably bent, or just broken... My wife says i could use new seals, especially after mexican food)lol.

Those numbers are still pretty hot. generally they settle down in the 660 to 670 range, and they are quite consistent. Are you sure that gun has 750+ shots through it? it just seems to me as a rifle that has not settled in yet. I had 2 of them in .22, and one was a 650 fps gun, and the other i detuned even further (590 fps). but they were consistent (maybe within 5 fps) and very easy to shoot accurately. I mean, your gun is shooting an avg of 703.6 fps and the variation between the lowest shot and highest is about 26 fps. i would shoot it some more, clean the bore and do a breach seal test.

I was the previous owner and it most certainly has been shot more than 750 times. I get the feeling it might need Mike's touch. Perhaps something need to be replaced, breach seal, piston seal? Not sure but Mike will get it working again if Steve decides to send it in.

[Back_Roads]

 Personally I would notice such deviation, I like to see 12 fps  spreads or better with a well functioning springer.

[mikeiniowa]

Something is very wrong...fix is no problem, just send it in...spring? seal? or replace....

[Methuselah]

Something is very wrong...fix is no problem, just send it in...spring? seal? or replace....

I reckon I'll have to, took off the scope and did the tissue test on the breech seal - it's good. Switched to Exact Jumbo Express 14.35 gr which Hassan said was it's favorite, 5 shot string:

633.6
627.8
614.1
648.9
657.1

Rifle is boxed up and well packed

[Methuselah]

XS25s is back ... Mike sent a new one along with two tins of pellets for break in, wow, very nice!

First shot right through a gallon container of water.

After below group:

721.5
726.6
723.2
723.2
710.7
719.8
715.7
709.9
710.7
719.0

All fit snuggly in the breach (2%?).

[Methuselah]

Couple surprises. First, I was re-reading the "instructions" ... I had thought Mike shot 50 for break in, he asked me to do it. Fair enough, it was to be pointed pellets. No idea why, but I had fired about 25 of the wad cutters already, so gathered up some pointed - the only ones on hand were Crosman pointed.

The last five of which I decided to shoot at a target. Suprise #1, very good group, much better than yesterday. At first I was wondering if they were missing the target altogether. Nope, they were pretty much going through the same hole...

Just for s's and grins, back to wadcutters - wasn't break in, the XS25 likes the Crosman's a lot more than the wadcutters. BTW, all fit well in the breach.

Surprise #2, tried the Chinese wadcutters in the 2260 which wasn't shooting particularly well.  Only one "flyer", probably damaged when I forced the bolt because it got stuck in the hole over the screw that mounts the barrel. They all tried to hang there and you have to tip it upward and finesse it a bit.

Will edit from phone to add the pics...

I'm trying to find the Chinese pellets, I want to buy a few tins for the 2260 (no luck so far). I took Mike's advice and ordered some H&N 5.52 tins and the JTS 18.1's as well, but I couldn't help also ordering more of the Crosman pointed "just in case"...

I'm debating whether I'm going to put the scope back on it 

[Methuselah]

Very few Crosman pointed left in the tin, figured better do it now while I have enough, ten over the chrono:

701.1
666.3
630.4
678.0
674.3
668.5
665.6
684.8
664.2
670.0

Expected better given the group but some did fit better than others and note it "settled" and was shot some before I went for that group as well. No matter, I've put less than 100 rounds through it and the other (recommended) pellets ARE on order so will see how they group and then crono with them...

[gmupatriot2010]

Steve,

Genuinely happy to see the rifle shooting well for you and its not even broken in yet. Plus if Mike suggested JTS as the pellet of choice, I imagine you will be grouping really tight groups with the preferred pellet and after proper break-in of a couple of hundred rounds down the chamber!

Hassan

[Methuselah]

(Ouch)

[Methuselah]

Too late to edit... should not have indicated a problem (ouch).

I had it rested on a towel over the deck railing. Irons come into play with increasing range, and who knows if pellets doing decent at 11 yards will behave beyond...

I'll need to be patient and just keep shooting it until it's got me trained 

[gmupatriot2010]

Steve,

It took me around 200 ish rounds to get everything working. Meaning, I had to understand the gun, how it likes to be held and understand the shot cycle. While all that learning was happening, the internals are breaking in too.

Springers are a test of patience and I learned that the hard way a long time ago. I know you have several springers so what I am saying is not new to you. Give it time and once you use the right pellets, you will see the rifle will surprise you. Mike stands behind his product and I am certain if he says the JTS 18.1 will give you best results then try them and hopefully you get the performance you are looking for 

[Methuselah]

Steve,

It took me around 200 ish rounds to get everything working. Meaning, I had to understand the gun, how it likes to be held and understand the shot cycle. While all that learning was happening, the internals are breaking in too.

Springers are a test of patience and I learned that the hard way a long time ago. I know you have several springers so what I am saying is not new to you. Give it time and once you use the right pellets, you will see the rifle will surprise you. Mike stands behind his product and I am certain if he says the JTS 18.1 will give you best results then try them and hopefully you get the performance you are looking for 

The JTS's are backordered expected 5/7, so it will take me a little while, but in the meantime I'm still using up the last of the Crosman Pointed and have a few others I can try in it ... I'm just as you say, figuring out how she likes to be held, etc.

Trigger weights were all over the place, but when I shoot it feels very consistent. Same lesson, since it feels the same I am obviously not testing it the same way every time with the pull gage. Just gotta learn the details really matter with a springer.

1# 13.8 oz
2# 5.1 oz
2# 3.7 oz
1# 14.4 oz
1# 8.6 oz

[Methuselah]

Still Crosman Pointed, new tin, old pellet design. Ten, not particularly taking my time, 34 feet. Didn't measure, but all would have hit a dime (barely).

Found the screws had come loose and tightened them before shooting this group.

Wanted to scope it for this round but was still inches high at 5 or 6 yards with the erector bound. Breech seal is very close to surface of block. Reverse mounted drooper rail, shimmed ring, floss behind the breech seal, or bend the barrel?

It shoots smoother now that the screws are snugged up

Maybe also notable, more pellets from new tin were a loose fit in the breech.

[Methuselah]

Next try at ~25 yards 3 or 4 inch "group", checked the screws again. Loose.

Will have to Loctite, or maybe that new stuff (I forgot what it's called).

[longhunter]

Vibra-tite.

[Methuselah]

Vibra-tite.

Yup, thanks

[gmupatriot2010]

Steve,

It took me around 200 ish rounds to get everything working. Meaning, I had to understand the gun, how it likes to be held and understand the shot cycle. While all that learning was happening, the internals are breaking in too.

Springers are a test of patience and I learned that the hard way a long time ago. I know you have several springers so what I am saying is not new to you. Give it time and once you use the right pellets, you will see the rifle will surprise you. Mike stands behind his product and I am certain if he says the JTS 18.1 will give you best results then try them and hopefully you get the performance you are looking for 

The JTS's are backordered expected 5/7, so it will take me a little while, but in the meantime I'm still using up the last of the Crosman Pointed and have a few others I can try in it ... I'm just as you say, figuring out how she likes to be held, etc.

Trigger weights were all over the place, but when I shoot it feels very consistent. Same lesson, since it feels the same I am obviously not testing it the same way every time with the pull gage. Just gotta learn the details really matter with a springer.

1# 13.8 oz
2# 5.1 oz
2# 3.7 oz
1# 14.4 oz
1# 8.6 oz

I am waiting on update on the rifle's accuracy after you have had the chance to try JTS Looking forward to seeing good results.

As for the stock screws becoming loose, yea that happened to me as well. I remember one day I was shooting and couldn't get the gun to shoot right and was scratching my head as to what's wrong. It was shooting just fine the day prior but I guess it doesn't take many shots to knock loose the stock screws and the accuracy fall off. Especially during break-in period when the gun shoots harsher than it would otherwise.

Looking forward to an update!

Hassan