NOTOS arrived

[avator]

UPS dropped it off at around 11:00 am today. All I had time to do is open the box before Betty Lou wanted to make a store run.
When we got back I took the gun and headed for the Red Shed. I pushed the lego gun aside that I was tinkering with this morning and had a good look at the NOTOS. I was a bit nervous because the gauge read empty.
I put the stock on and aired it up to 3500 psi. I had to cock it to get it to begin filling. The probe fit the female QD on the Yong Heng no problem.
I had a 3-9 x 40 AO RWS scope on the bench so that's what I put on it.. for now.

Let me just get the things out of the way that need improvement on the gun IMO. None of which are deal breakers.
The stock is a bit wobbly when it's extended. Maybe a wrap or two of Teflon tape here and there will tighten it up.

The cocking lever is a bit crunchy... it may break in or it may just need lubed properly.

The trigger is a bit heavy and draggy, It drew my attention. I'm sure that's something again that may break in and can be adjusted, smoothed and lubed.

The mag is that typical fiddly SPA type mag but I have a few other guns with that type mag and I am familiar with it.. I hear CARM mags work much better. I have a few in .177 and I would have to agree. I do have a spare SPA mag in .22 but I'll need to file the alignment nub of for it to work.

I put medium rings on it and they could be a tad higher but for now I'm gonna just go with it. I don't like having the center of the scope 3" above center bore.

That's about it and like I said... none of it is a deal breaker.

[avator]

Now for some things I do like...
I'm typically not a tactical type gun kinda guy but the NOTOS is not way over the edge in design. It'll grow on me.
I like the size, the weight and the balance when shouldered.
I like the left hand cocking lever and don't even mind that it don't have a knob sticking out. It will take a bit of getting used to reaching for it blind but that will come. At least it's not in my ear like a bullpup. The gun can be laid flat on the shooting bench on either side.
I've read the stories about poor accuracy and again, I got a little nervous when I shot the first mag of JTS 18.1 and got a 1" group at 20 yards. But I loaded the next mag with CPUM 14.3 domes an the group tightened right up to within 1/2". I am confident that once I clean the barrel, have a look at the crown and lighten/smooth/lube that trigger groups will improve even more. Those are the only 2 pellets I have tried so far so I might even find better.
I'm going to seriously consider putting a bottle on this gun but I want to give it a fair shake before I go that route.

[tennx]

 Congrats…..when I first joined I read a lot about getting the scope as close to the barrel/bore as possible….Ive never found it a problem …I dont think I have one gun with the scope that low…..for me its what ever sight picture gun dictates….heck my notos is medium rings on .5 riser….

As for the wobbly stock..if u push the button as far up in the housing as it will go stock will slide right off….I laid a short piece of aluminum along the top as a shim… and slid the stock back on…...stopped the wobbly but still allows the stock to adjust…good luck

Mine likes the H&N FTT 14.66 and CPUMS…my mags are starting to give me trouble….but mine is on the money @ 30 yards…

[avator]

Congrats…..when I first joined I read a lot about getting the scope as close to the barrel/bore as possible….Ive never found it a problem …I dont think I have one gun with the scope that low…..for me its what ever sight picture gun dictates….heck my notos is medium rings on .5 riser….

As for the wobbly stock..if u push the button as far up in the housing as it will go stock will slide right off….I laid a short piece of aluminum along the top as a shim… and slid the stock back on…...stopped the wobbly but still allows the stock to adjust…good luck

Mine likes the H&N FTT 14.66 and CPUMS…my mags are starting to give me trouble….but mine is on the money @ 30 yards…

Scopes on higher rings aren't really an issue for plinking situations but if you do alot of shooting at different ranges it has a degree of affect. Once you learn to use the mildots it's not bad.
As for the wobbly stock, I didn't figure it would take too much to fix.
Thanks for the info.

[brewbear]

You didn't try your cast pellets?

[avator]

Not yet but I will.
I'm having a little issue with pellet #1 in the mag. It fits tighter in the mag and I don't want to pressure the cocking lever to force it in. The pellet noses forward and I have to tap the mag back out. That scrapes the nose off the pellet. I eject the pellet and the remaining pellets cycle great.
I filed the alignment rail off of the spare SPA mag I had until it fit the NOTOS. It works just fine.. no issues with #1 pellet.
It got kinda cold out there so I decided to close up and come in. Feels like some dampness in the air and I don't need to be getting sick.
I'll fire the heat up in the morning and see if I can address that mag.
I'll also put the oring buffer in the lego gun. By then it should be warmed up enough to open the doors back up.
When I do start testing heavier pellets I might need to use the SST.
I saw where another member was having issues with his pellet probe being loose and out of alignment. I wonder if he may have had the same issue and forced the cocking lever shut.

[naptemp]

Avator, you single handedly are responsible for half the posts on Gateway To Airguns !

[HunterWhite]

Bill, your posts are entertaining,  keep posting friend.


Naptemp, do you have any cool stuff to share,


I am kinda slow the past two years with lymphoma an just generally getting old. Hand surgery today. I hope to post ab a new M-Rod build soon. 


Hunter

[avator]

For me there are three parts to airgunning that make it interesting...
Shooting them, tinkering with them and sharing my experiences with them.
Like most here, when I was a kid I had a BB gun. Unless I was in school or sleeping I was never far from my BB gun and bicycle. Then life happened. Around 10 years or so ago I found airguns again via a Walmart Daisy 880. Seeking knowledge I found the GTA. And it was from regular folks just like me sharing their experiences that I learned way more than I ever expected. I also made alot of friends among these gates. Most I've never met.
Someone once told me that the best way to gather and keep knowledge is to give it away.

[Rat Sniper (AKA: PaulT58)]

I added a strip electrical tape to the top of the buffer tube, that helped a lot with the stock wobble.  The trigger will become real nice once you adjust it and polish the contact point.  You could also replace some of the springs with lighter ones.

My neighbor received his Notos today.  It's his first PCP and got it on my recommendation.  Tomorrow morning we're going to spend some time getting his set up and zeroed in and then we'll have some Notos shooting time!  He just cleared his property back to his property line, so we probably have a good 75 yards to shoot on his side of the fence!  Te Crosman Premier Domed work very well in mine and I plan on using those when we get his set-up.

[avator]

Those JTS 18.1 pellets do really well in some of my other guns but that may be due to longer barrels and faster speeds. That's what made me try them first. I grabbed the Crosman domes because you mentioned they do well in your NOTOS.
I'm not very confident that my cast pellets will do well in this gun because of the weights of them.

I also plan to revisit some of the threads I read on this gun.. I saw some how tos on massaging that trigger including some spring changes. They included photos that will be helpful.

[avator]

This gun has the sideways dove tail grooves front and rear on the rail. I have a few Ruger 1022 flip up peeps but I think the comb is too high to use them. I have a nice TruGlo red dot that will hot swap with the scope or I can use an offset mount like you did.

[HunterWhite]

For me there are three parts to airgunning that make it interesting...
Shooting them, tinkering with them and sharing my experiences with them.
Like most here, when I was a kid I had a BB gun. Unless I was in school or sleeping I was never far from my BB gun and bicycle. Then life happened. Around 10 years or so ago I found airguns again via a Walmart Daisy 880. Seeking knowledge I found the GTA. And it was from regular folks just like me sharing their experiences that I learned way more than I ever expected. I also made alot of friends among these gates. Most I've never met.
Someone once told me that the best way to gather and keep knowledge is to give it away.

[avator]

BTW... I topped the NOTOS off to 3500 psi and brought it in with me when I closed the shop. I stood it in the corner. I just checked it and it's right where it was. I'll check again before I shoot it tomorrow. But it's holding good so far.

[HunterWhite]

For me there are three parts to airgunning that make it interesting...
Shooting them, tinkering with them and sharing my experiences with them.
Like most here, when I was a kid I had a BB gun. Unless I was in school or sleeping I was never far from my BB gun and bicycle. Then life happened. Around 10 years or so ago I found airguns again via a Walmart Daisy 880. Seeking knowledge I found the GTA. And it was from regular folks just like me sharing their experiences that I learned way more than I ever expected. I also made alot of friends among these gates. Most I've never met.
Someone once told me that the best way to gather and keep knowledge is to give it away.

Bill, you're absolutely right about that "sharing of knowledge " that is the very thing that attracted me to the GTA to start with back about 2015 I started reading here, then finally joined a year or so later.  It was amazing watching "Cookie Monster ", "Motorhead", "Knifemaker", "Lloyd-SS", "Ribbonstone", "FuzzyGrub" "Ezman604" (who previously owned the GTA), and so many others.
Some members contribute with their experiences with the equipment that they have owned,  like Paul "Rat Sniper" who shares some pretty cool videos of his backyard shooting gallery as well as his experiences with his choices of cool stuff.  Max115 hunts and makes production videos,  very entertaining.  I miss "Wayne52" videos, opinions on his gear.
Travis "Oldpro" has contributed a lot, on the website, in the design room, and in the machine shop.
I like dead pest of the day as well as   
Hunting in my 80th year is kinda cool, I hope that I can still hunt in a few more years. 🙏


😥
Sadly It seems to me that the last couple of years there have been TROLLS taking pot shots at anyone modding American products.  I believe that has caused the GTA website to loose some of its sparkle.


Hunter

[avator]

Hunter, there are some folks that can't stand to see other's enjoying themselves. Maybe they just don't know how to get out of whatever funk they got going on. Best just not to feed the animals.   

[avator]

Ok, one of these NOTOS threads contained information on making the trigger better. It included pics and spoke about the springs to replace and/or remove. I looked and looked, even used Google and I can't find it.
Can someone help me locate that thread?

TIA

[Rat Sniper (AKA: PaulT58)]

Post #108 in my Initial Impressions Thread is where I mention polishing the contact points, but I did not include any pictures.

https://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=206237.msg156425811#msg156425811

I went back looking and did find one picture of the trigger mechanism, it's pretty basic and I probably only polished the point it latches to the hammer.  The rest seems to be plastic.  As far as the comment on springs, that may have been me also, but I think I was thinking of the Jet since the Notos looks to only have one small spring.  Here's the one picture I have of the trigger mechanism.

[Back_Roads]

 The Notos I got from Kevin, has not had any trigger work done, it has worn in nicely, was not bad to begin with when I got it.

[avator]

Ha Ha Ha ... total cranial flagellation on my part. I was looking for the wrong dang trigger group. I would have never found it in the NOTOS threads because I was looking for the Jet 2 group.  DOH !

I had full intentions on finishing up the lego gun first this morning but the NOTOS spent the night in the house and I carried it to the shop with me. I figured since I already had it in my hand.... well, you know.   

So I pulled the stock off and the side cover for the trigger group. "Hey, where are all those parts I saw in the picture?  Where are the springs?"  DERRRR.