Well I shoot a friend's FWB 124 at the range. It had a terrible recoil. Worse than my gas ram guns!!He sent it to a tuner who, played around with it for 6 months, when it came back I shot it again. Night and Day difference.Yes, the fit and finish is excellent on the newer FWB 124, but the OEM shot cycle leaves alot to be desired.Just my $0.02... -Yogi
Hey Jon,Please don't temp me into buying the FWB Sport as it's one of the few Springers I would like to try ... that is still available. I almost pulled the trigger when AOA had the for $595.I'm not dismayed by the inability to get parts as I can make most things needed and could tune to desired shot cycle.Another gun I wished I had tried was the Walther LGV Master Pro. Other than its sheer mass, the gun receiver shell (aka Crosman 760) had so many little parts that I wasn't sure how durable the gun was going to be?It's nice that you could spread (Springer) love by making Cometa guns available to members at rock bottom prices . All things considered, Cometa airguns are a good value for the $$$.
Jon,I inquired about a friends LGV. I asked iff it was a 16 fpe gun, their response was no and could not be made into one.How did you do it?I did indeed miss out on the LGV and the SIG ap20...bummer.-Y
Quote from: Yogi on January 23, 2024, 10:22:48 AMWell I shoot a friend's FWB 124 at the range. It had a terrible recoil. Worse than my gas ram guns!!He sent it to a tuner who, played around with it for 6 months, when it came back I shot it again. Night and Day difference.Yes, the fit and finish is excellent on the newer FWB 124, but the OEM shot cycle leaves alot to be desired.Just my $0.02... -YogiThe old 124 and even the new Sport are very snappy guns and they aren't going to be for everyone. That being said, they are still some of the most accurate and least pellet picky break barrels I've ever shot. De-snappifying them some really doesn't take a whole lot though. For one of my new Sports I think just got a new rear guide, HW80 piston seal, and I think I lost one coil and I was still sitting at 13.5ftlbs? Don't quote me on that. I'll verify later. Here is a comparison between that gun and a 12ftlb 50S...
Quote from: Sqwirl57 on January 23, 2024, 10:49:12 AMQuote from: Yogi on January 23, 2024, 10:22:48 AMWell I shoot a friend's FWB 124 at the range. It had a terrible recoil. Worse than my gas ram guns!!He sent it to a tuner who, played around with it for 6 months, when it came back I shot it again. Night and Day difference.Yes, the fit and finish is excellent on the newer FWB 124, but the OEM shot cycle leaves alot to be desired.Just my $0.02... -YogiThe old 124 and even the new Sport are very snappy guns and they aren't going to be for everyone. That being said, they are still some of the most accurate and least pellet picky break barrels I've ever shot. De-snappifying them some really doesn't take a whole lot though. For one of my new Sports I think just got a new rear guide, HW80 piston seal, and I think I lost one coil and I was still sitting at 13.5ftlbs? Don't quote me on that. I'll verify later. Here is a comparison between that gun and a 12ftlb 50S...17 FPE HW95L .22 shot cycle.
I'm honestly suprised you of all people don't have a new Sport already and I'm not going to try to talk you out of it either. With your talents with these guns you would have an absolutely fantastic shooter on your hands. Plus the irons are fantastic.
We need a thread dedicated just to shot cycle videos. I'd love to see/hear everyone's favorite guns in action. Your side view is definitely nicer than my rear angle
Quote from: Sqwirl57 on January 23, 2024, 11:37:09 AMI'm honestly suprised you of all people don't have a new Sport already and I'm not going to try to talk you out of it either. With your talents with these guns you would have an absolutely fantastic shooter on your hands. Plus the irons are fantastic.I would.Kirk doesn't like long heavy guns, and the Sport is somewhat long and heavy. Not if you love Walther's, but if your favourite gun is the HW30 then the Sport is long and heavy.To each his own.Thanks for the kind words. After two years of using the LGU, and a little re-configuration of my Super-light Piston, it IS shooting well. It has given me two 2nd places at World's so I cannot complain too much. And scoring near PCP scores is always fun.Do let us know how that LGV is doing, I am also curious. Hope to see you Feb 11'th at PSA. Let me know if you are going to get an "Irons only" round.Keep well and shoot straight!HM
...how many of us are torn between Diana and Weihrauch?I ask because I find myself increasingly leaning towards one over the other, and I don't know if it's just a subjective preference or if more exposure to both (I've bought one of each recently, neither purchase planned) has just shown me which manufacturer is "better". To be sure, I really like both. I'm wondering if anyone out there has gone from being "a Diana guy" to Weihrauch, or from Weihrauch to Diana over time. And if so, why? Because if you have worked on many of both, and were influenced by what you found internally, I'd surely like to know that.I'm just a driver, not a mechanic so, speaking for myself:From the little D27 to the much bigger Diana's, I can appreciate the intention behind all of them and the good work that went into them. Especially the older ones like my D45. Great stuff and at good prices, although there are a few product compromises that I wish Diana had never made. The plastic D460 sight design for example. Or the plastic end caps on the compression tubes. On the plus side, they make good power for their weight, are satisfyingly accurate (or more) and most triggers are excellent. Even the T05 can be very nice, and that's the one I consider to be the least desireable. The barrel droop issue is somewhat offset by the performance of the scope rail - no chance to squeeze your comp tube out of round. And of course, droop can be dealt with.The Weihrauchs of course have no trigger issues, although the Diana T06 triggers equal them in my book. Mine are all satisfyingly accurate (or more), so I see no advantage there. The relative weights of different rifles seems to be a wash too, as are general performance levels until you get to the Magnums. But the feel of quality for the Weihrauchs seems to be a solid step over the Diana's. And no disappointing plastic bits to spoil things either. I do wish the safeties were resettable.The HW95s and 97s seem to be real standouts to me, but I have been lucky enough to shoot many Weihrauchs, and they all "do it" for me. I have developed a preference for one maker.For me it's Weihrauch by a nose, after a hard race.
Ok I got some hard data for you. With the JSB 15.89gr I was sitting right around 670 for 16fpe and with 14.6gr FTTs I was at 710fps for around 16.5fpe. So the gun did settle in a bit but not a whole lot. If I was worried about the few lost fps I could probably tweak it back in but the gun shoots great so I'll leave her be.
At the risk of renewing my past status as an FWB Sport enabler, totally agree that it is not for everyone. If anyone wants to dump theirs, though, just let me know. Guess I could make room for another one. Just sayin'.
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