Weirauch HW30s AOA stainless 177

[Escondido1]

Been a little while since posting. I have enjoyed catching up on all the new thoughts and experiences. Pulled out my one and only air rifle and my crony and checked function in this stock unit.

JSB Diabolo RS 7.33 - 640 fps

Crosman Pointed 7.4 - 670

Crow Mag - 9.26 - 540

Crosman Premier 7.9 HP - 580

Crosman 10.5 domed piranha - 480


I'm always debating in my little mind regarding getting a more powerful Weirauch....but my little vermin about my house seem to succumb well to the low/slow path of the HW30 fodder. Regards to all.

[Yogi]

Yes, it all depends on the range that you shoot at.
Inside of 25 yards, hard to beat the HW 30.

-Y

[SpiralGroove]

Been a little while since posting. I have enjoyed catching up on all the new thoughts and experiences. Pulled out my one and only air rifle and my crony and checked function in this stock unit.

- JSB Diabolo RS 7.33 - 640 fps
- Crosman Pointed 7.4 - 670
- Crow Mag - 9.26 - 540
- Crosman Premier 7.9 HP - 580
- Crosman 10.5 domed piranha - 480

I'm always debating in my little mind regarding getting a more powerful Weirauch....but my little vermin about my house seem to succumb well to the low/slow path of the HW30 fodder. Regards to all. 

Go with the most accurate pellet - End of Story - plink the rest .

[Deerstalker]

Been a little while since posting. I have enjoyed catching up on all the new thoughts and experiences. Pulled out my one and only air rifle and my crony and checked function in this stock unit.

JSB Diabolo RS 7.33 - 640 fps

Crosman Pointed 7.4 - 670

Crow Mag - 9.26 - 540

Crosman Premier 7.9 HP - 580

Crosman 10.5 domed piranha - 480


I'm always debating in my little mind regarding getting a more powerful Weirauch....but my little vermin about my house seem to succumb well to the low/slow path of the HW30 fodder. Regards to all.

I added your FPE numbers which may be a tad low IMHO.

JSB Diabolo RS 7.33 - 640 fps      6.67 FPE

Crosman Pointed 7.4 – 670         7.38 FPE

Crow Mag - 9.26 – 540         6.0  FPE

Crosman Premier 7.9 HP – 580      5.90 FPE

Crosman 10.5 domed piranha – 480      5.37 FPE

[Escondido1]

Been a little while since posting. I have enjoyed catching up on all the new thoughts and experiences. Pulled out my one and only air rifle and my crony and checked function in this stock unit.

JSB Diabolo RS 7.33 - 640 fps

Crosman Pointed 7.4 - 670

Crow Mag - 9.26 - 540

Crosman Premier 7.9 HP - 580

Crosman 10.5 domed piranha - 480


I'm always debating in my little mind regarding getting a more powerful Weirauch....but my little vermin about my house seem to succumb well to the low/slow path of the HW30 fodder. Regards to all.

I added your FPE numbers which may be a tad low IMHO.

JSB Diabolo RS 7.33 - 640 fps      6.67 FPE

Crosman Pointed 7.4 – 670         7.38 FPE

Crow Mag - 9.26 – 540         6.0  FPE

Crosman Premier 7.9 HP – 580      5.90 FPE

Crosman 10.5 domed piranha – 480      5.37 FPE

I do wish I had the technical skills to bump my FPS upward....in a simple, inexpensive manner.....

[Yogi]

Been a little while since posting. I have enjoyed catching up on all the new thoughts and experiences. Pulled out my one and only air rifle and my crony and checked function in this stock unit.

JSB Diabolo RS 7.33 - 640 fps

Crosman Pointed 7.4 - 670

Crow Mag - 9.26 - 540

Crosman Premier 7.9 HP - 580

Crosman 10.5 domed piranha - 480


I'm always debating in my little mind regarding getting a more powerful Weirauch....but my little vermin about my house seem to succumb well to the low/slow path of the HW30 fodder. Regards to all.

I added your FPE numbers which may be a tad low IMHO.

JSB Diabolo RS 7.33 - 640 fps      6.67 FPE

Crosman Pointed 7.4 – 670         7.38 FPE

Crow Mag - 9.26 – 540         6.0  FPE

Crosman Premier 7.9 HP – 580      5.90 FPE

Crosman 10.5 domed piranha – 480      5.37 FPE

I do wish I had the technical skills to bump my FPS upward....in a simple, inexpensive manner.....

Shoot lighter pellets!

-Y

[Robert 5mm]

Been a little while since posting. I have enjoyed catching up on all the new thoughts and experiences. Pulled out my one and only air rifle and my crony and checked function in this stock unit.

JSB Diabolo RS 7.33 - 640 fps

Crosman Pointed 7.4 - 670

Crow Mag - 9.26 - 540

Crosman Premier 7.9 HP - 580

Crosman 10.5 domed piranha - 480


I'm always debating in my little mind regarding getting a more powerful Weirauch....but my little vermin about my house seem to succumb well to the low/slow path of the HW30 fodder. Regards to all.

If you can do a main spring update - HW30 is easy to do - should get 700 FPS on the JSB 7.33 ( maybe get a new piston seal from Vortek )
ARH Spring only = $17 Kit = $69
https://www.airrifleheadquarters.com/catalog/item/251488/2322114.htm

[SpiralGroove]

+1 Robert .
One of these days I will try the vortek seal ... 

[tjk]

A new mainspring might bring up your velocity, but at the cost of somewhat  relearning to shoot your HW30. And you may not be all that crazy about the change either. I would just stick with the most accurate pellet and go with that. I would  also suggest that if you do indeed want another HW rifle with more power,....the HW35 is an excellent choice,...especially in .22. From your description of your shooting needs, it doesn't sound to me like the 80, 95, or 50 series guns are a good fit for you. All being just 'too much gun'.Maybe not the 50 so much, but JMO, the cocking effort is above average for the power it puts out.  Both the HW 30 and the HW 35 are very "neighbor family" for an urban environment that won't draw too much attention. The 35 I bought brand new almost felt like a "tuned rifle" right out of the box. I did add an Air Rifle Headquarters kit, and simply did a clean an lube job on it. The balance to power ratio of the 35 is one of its best attributes,....along with the legendary accuracy, and it is a proven platform that has been in continuous production from the mid 1950's I believe. That's one heck of a track record for anything!! The 35 really is one of those special air rifles that you will truely take pride in your ownership! But getting back to the HW30,...I like the HW 30 so much that I recently placed an order for a .177 model. My current 30 is in .20 and is a pure joy to shoot. Best of luck with whatever you decide to do with your HW30.

[wjjones]

Been a little while since posting. I have enjoyed catching up on all the new thoughts and experiences. Pulled out my one and only air rifle and my crony and checked function in this stock unit.

JSB Diabolo RS 7.33 - 640 fps

Crosman Pointed 7.4 - 670

Crow Mag - 9.26 - 540

Crosman Premier 7.9 HP - 580

Crosman 10.5 domed piranha - 480


I'm always debating in my little mind regarding getting a more powerful Weirauch....but my little vermin about my house seem to succumb well to the low/slow path of the HW30 fodder. Regards to all.

I added your FPE numbers which may be a tad low IMHO.

JSB Diabolo RS 7.33 - 640 fps      6.67 FPE

Crosman Pointed 7.4 – 670         7.38 FPE

Crow Mag - 9.26 – 540         6.0  FPE

Crosman Premier 7.9 HP – 580      5.90 FPE

Crosman 10.5 domed piranha – 480      5.37 FPE

I do wish I had the technical skills to bump my FPS upward....in a simple, inexpensive manner.....

It looks like your gun already shooting hotter than most other HW30s, including mine.  To me, 600FPS is about perfect for a 6lb back yard gun, especially if you're just plinking, shooting paper targets, or killing small animals within 25 yds (by "small" I mean rabbits and smaller).  The HW30 is what it is, and just about perfect in the minds of many. 

[Escondido1]

Some very excellent points raised....thank you!

So...let me ask this another way......knowing what i use now...and so enjoy out to 25 yds......do I gain a valuable pesting addition to add an HW50 or even Diana 48 to my arsenal.....or is it just finding the proverbial excuse to enjoy MORE! Or would you replace my 30 with a 50? Can I accomplish all my small animal residential pesting needs with current weapon? And for when I return to south Florida in the future, how is the iguana power of my HW30?

[Robert 5mm]

The HW30 is not an iguana capable air gun - the Diana 48 .22 should be enough - a PCP .25 would be better

https://www.airgundepot.com/vault/articles/hunting-iguanas-in-an-urban-environment/

[Yogi]

Some very excellent points raised....thank you!

So...let me ask this another way......knowing what i use now...and so enjoy out to 25 yds......do I gain a valuable pesting addition to add an HW50 or even Diana 48 to my arsenal.....or is it just finding the proverbial excuse to enjoy MORE! Or would you replace my 30 with a 50? Can I accomplish all my small animal residential pesting needs with current weapon? And for when I return to south Florida in the future, how is the iguana power of my HW30?

Iguanas at 10 yards YES!
Iguanas at 30 yards, NO!
You need to hit them 1/2 inch behind and down from their eye socket.

-Y

[Escondido1]

Ranged today at 21 yds offhand.....took an Evian 16 ounce water filled bottle and a 64 ounce minute maid lemonade plastic water filled bottle to task. Sorry my attempts to upload the photos failed ....but to elaborate, the HW30 177 threw the lighter/slower JSB 7.33 RS with greater authority and impact noise and impact penetration than the Crosman 7.4 pointed at the first layer of plastic....no through and throughs on the back of the bottles. All the captured pellets were significantly deformed sitting inside the bottles. These plastics are fairly sturdy and make me wonder what impact on the noggin of an iguana it would have??

[Eclem]

Some very excellent points raised....thank you!

So...let me ask this another way......knowing what i use now...and so enjoy out to 25 yds......do I gain a valuable pesting addition to add an HW50 or even Diana 48 to my arsenal.....or is it just finding the proverbial excuse to enjoy MORE! Or would you replace my 30 with a 50? Can I accomplish all my small animal residential pesting needs with current weapon? And for when I return to south Florida in the future, how is the iguana power of my HW30?

A healthy HW30 in .177 scoped 4x32 is a humane rat, mouse, squirrel, iguana killer out to 25 yards. My HW50S in .177 scoped 3-9x40 is ditto out to 40 yards. The 50 is indeed stiffer to cock but not an issue for any healthy adult M or W. Both guns are very accurate with H&N FTT's. They do not run Crosman well at all.

[Yogi]

If you are shooting the baby green iguanas your HW 30 should do fine.  HOWEVER, if you shoot mature 3-4++ foot iguanas their skin is too tough to penetrate with a HW 30 UNLESS you can get a direct back of the head shot.  A body shot, at least on their back if shot from above will just bounce off if the angle is not direct.  If a mature iguana is running directly away from you your best chance is to shoot them where a hind leg meets their body.  Lots of blood and a 3 legged iguana that needs a second shot to finish them off.

-Y

PS PM me if you need any more iguana hunting tips.

[Escondido1]

If you are shooting the baby green iguanas your HW 30 should do fine.  HOWEVER, if you shoot mature 3-4++ foot iguanas their skin is too tough to penetrate with a HW 30 UNLESS you can get a direct back of the head shot.  A body shot, at least on their back if shot from above will just bounce off if the angle is not direct.  If a mature iguana is running directly away from you your best chance is to shoot them where a hind leg meets their body.  Lots of blood and a 3 legged iguana that needs a second shot to finish them off.

-Y

PS PM me if you need any more iguana hunting tips.

Some very useful and practical information. My HW30 is so easy to shoot and hold...I like small light machines...maybe I'm trying to guess if the HW50 would be as easy to shoot with equal accuracy, lightness... and also provide maybe the extra 'oomph' needed for the 'invasives'...or just stick with what I'm proficient with within less than 25 yds. Easy is better....

[Eclem]

If you are shooting the baby green iguanas your HW 30 should do fine.  HOWEVER, if you shoot mature 3-4++ foot iguanas their skin is too tough to penetrate with a HW 30 UNLESS you can get a direct back of the head shot.  A body shot, at least on their back if shot from above will just bounce off if the angle is not direct.  If a mature iguana is running directly away from you your best chance is to shoot them where a hind leg meets their body.  Lots of blood and a 3 legged iguana that needs a second shot to finish them off.

-Y

PS PM me if you need any more iguana hunting tips.

Great post - didn't know you had Iguanas in SF - I will alert my son over in Walnut Creek to be on the look-out! To your point{s) - I have never shot an airgun at an Iguana on the run and wouldn't.  Ditto rabbits and squirrels. But when they hold up at acceptable HW30 distance(s) and peer around I take head shots. I have only missed once that I can think of. The HW 30's are that accurate. All Best from CT in summer and St. Thomas in winter. (we rarely see Ig's over 3 feet anymore)