Author Topic: Newby on the block... well, to casting anyways. (Read 36959 times))

avator · « **Reply #1040 on:** March 09, 2024, 04:03:29 PM »

The wind died down and I shot 2 mags, 1 full 3600psi fill, at 35m and they all stayed within a dime.
Next I'll pour a large batch over the next couple days and test them in the rest of my .22 guns.

avator · « **Reply #1041 on:** March 09, 2024, 04:04:32 PM »

Quote from: Madd Hatter on March 09, 2024, 04:02:23 PM

Is that what you are using?

Yep.

avator · « **Reply #1042 on:** March 09, 2024, 04:07:25 PM »

The end cap screws on tight with a rubber seal and you can tumble with water or even oil it you want. I tumble dry.
I did try oil once but I don't like lubed pellets and cleaned it out with warm water and Dawn.

2A Georgia · « **Reply #1043 on:** March 09, 2024, 10:57:01 PM »

Quote from: avator on March 09, 2024, 12:15:20 PM

Sneak peek...
I ran 30 pellets on the very first run of this mold and culled out 15.. 50%. Half of those 15 were due to me miss pouring while trying the get my rhythm with bottom pouring. The 15 good ones weighed in between 18.98 and 19.20. I did not tumble the pellets.
I loaded them in the 15 rd Maple mag for the NoDoze and put all 15 into a 1" group at the steel blank I have on a 35 meter tree.
I think after the mold settles in and I catch my rhythm pouring they will be at a better percentage rate.

Impressive! Once I get all my mad scientist toys together I'm hopeful for a .3-.4gr spread. IIDMP maybe 1" at 25yards for me, which would be acceptable for how I scout/hunt with the Notos. My longest harvest this year was 33yards, 40' up a tree (two from the same tree).

2A Georgia · « **Reply #1044 on:** March 09, 2024, 11:00:09 PM »

Bill,
You were right. I still don't have the 110 outlet shown and haven't received the two push button circuit breakers (still in China) and even without any wires it looks tight in that box. I'll search around for a 150x250x100 box. This one is 170x140x100

avator · « **Reply #1045 on:** March 09, 2024, 11:37:40 PM »

I didn't use fuses. I plug the units into surge protected power strips. I didn't use power lights. The LED PID indicate that the unit is on. I used a standard house on and off switch for the hot plate mold oven. The toaster oven uses the timer/always on rheostat factory knob and the pot PID used a toggle on/off switch. The only unit with a fan is the one for the hot plate unit (the one in thee plastic ammo box. None of them get hot enough to even need a fan. I did vent the case just in case.

avator · « **Reply #1046 on:** March 10, 2024, 11:46:58 AM »

First batch of around 100 drops is in the tumbler. Sprues are back in the pot and the mold is in the oven stay hot. Once the pot is up to temp I'll pour another batch shutting off the tumbler at some point during that pour.
After that pour, those go in the tumbler, the sprues go in the pot. While that pot is coming back to temp I'll cull and weigh the first batch. Then the cycle will continue until I feel like I have done enough or the Secret Squirrel shows up.

avator · « **Reply #1047 on:** March 10, 2024, 01:55:41 PM »

Wow...
Round 1 was impressive.. maybe a 10% cull. Everything else dropped between 19 and 19.4. I shot 5 shot samples of the .0 and the .4 and and all held and easy dime at 25m. I moved in from the 35m target because we still have a swirling wind of about 10mph and gusty.
I am still using the NoDoze and have yet to try them in other guns. The NoDoze runs at around 700 fps and has that short barrel. I could get better or worse results from longer barrels on unregulated guns.
Round 2 is in the tumbler.

WobblyHand · « **Reply #1048 on:** March 10, 2024, 02:31:42 PM »

A bit jealous of your casting season, it's a lot harder to find a decent slice of good weather up here. I found the NOE 17gr 0.22 wad cutters are hard to cast well. They are so small that the block tends to chill the lead fast, even on a hot plate. Eventually I'll figure it out.

Bought the 2 cavity slug mold, 27gr HP, Bob's BT, and will see if I can cast them a bit better. Don't really have anything to shoot them with, but figure that's a fixable problem. I'll initially try them out in my PP700 or P-Rod. Pretty sure folks here can help me spend my money on something more suitable. Forums are good for that!

Madd Hatter · « **Reply #1049 on:** March 10, 2024, 02:53:50 PM »

Quote from: WobblyHand on March 10, 2024, 02:31:42 PM

A bit jealous of your casting season, it's a lot harder to find a decent slice of good weather up here. I found the NOE 17gr 0.22 wad cutters are hard to cast well. They are so small that the block tends to chill the lead fast, even on a hot plate. Eventually I'll figure it out.

Bought the 2 cavity slug mold, 27gr HP, Bob's BT, and will see if I can cast them a bit better. Don't really have anything to shoot them with, but figure that's a fixable problem. I'll initially try them out in my PP700 or P-Rod. Pretty sure folks here can help me spend my money on something more suitable. Forums are good for that!

That's the ones I shoot out of my impact except they're flat nose not hollow points at around 30 grains.

avator · « **Reply #1050 on:** March 10, 2024, 02:56:43 PM »

Hey Bruce... good to see you chiming in. I've tried the wadcutters and they don't like any gun I have. I'm just glad the mold was a loaner and I didn't buy it. I do remember Wayne had very good luck with them with his C02 pistols. But, the ones I ran was with the wheel weight lead. I might get better results with the 99.9 pure lead.

My first 2 runs are in the tin and my 3rd run is in the tumbler.
I am now confident enough in the 99.9 pure lead to make a 20# purchase from Rotometals next week.

WobblyHand · « **Reply #1051 on:** March 10, 2024, 03:05:03 PM »

FYI Bill, it's quite a bit cheaper (per lb) to buy a half pig from Rotometals, at least it was the last time I checked. My next buy will be a half pig of pure lead.

WobblyHand · « **Reply #1052 on:** March 10, 2024, 03:13:06 PM »

Quote from: Madd Hatter on March 10, 2024, 02:53:50 PM

Quote from: WobblyHand on March 10, 2024, 02:31:42 PM
A bit jealous of your casting season, it's a lot harder to find a decent slice of good weather up here. I found the NOE 17gr 0.22 wad cutters are hard to cast well. They are so small that the block tends to chill the lead fast, even on a hot plate. Eventually I'll figure it out.

Bought the 2 cavity slug mold, 27gr HP, Bob's BT, and will see if I can cast them a bit better. Don't really have anything to shoot them with, but figure that's a fixable problem. I'll initially try them out in my PP700 or P-Rod. Pretty sure folks here can help me spend my money on something more suitable. Forums are good for that!
That's the ones I shoot out of my impact except they're flat nose not hollow points at around 30 grains.

My mold came with pins so it can be HP or flat nose. Splurged on that. Only could get 2 cavity though, as all the other options were sold out.

Hoping I don't have to buy an Impact to enjoy them though. Awesome that you have one. Currently, don't have the funds to entertain the notion. Maybe some day. In the interim, I hope to find something else a bit less expensive to exercise these slugs.

Back_Roads · « **Reply #1053 on:** March 10, 2024, 03:14:02 PM »

The Bob's BT is a short range hammer in my Prod, they may need swaging in the Artemis guns, I find the 218-25-RF-D6 work best in the SPA guns and many others, way easer to cast than pellets.
https://noebulletmolds.com/site/product-category/bullet-moulds/224/218-25-rf-d6/

avator · « **Reply #1054 on:** March 10, 2024, 03:16:55 PM »

Quote from: WobblyHand on March 10, 2024, 03:05:03 PM

FYI Bill, it's quite a bit cheaper (per lb) to buy a half pig from Rotometals, at least it was the last time I checked. My next buy will be a half pig of pure lead.

Yep, you're right... just checked. It's $119 for 42 - 47 # and free shipping. I'll decide next week when I place the order. I have to see where it fits in the budget. I'm still getting over the fear/shock of fixed income.

Madd Hatter · « **Reply #1055 on:** March 10, 2024, 03:29:32 PM »

Quote from: WobblyHand on March 10, 2024, 03:13:06 PM

Quote from: Madd Hatter on March 10, 2024, 02:53:50 PM
Quote from: WobblyHand on March 10, 2024, 02:31:42 PM
A bit jealous of your casting season, it's a lot harder to find a decent slice of good weather up here. I found the NOE 17gr 0.22 wad cutters are hard to cast well. They are so small that the block tends to chill the lead fast, even on a hot plate. Eventually I'll figure it out.

Bought the 2 cavity slug mold, 27gr HP, Bob's BT, and will see if I can cast them a bit better. Don't really have anything to shoot them with, but figure that's a fixable problem. I'll initially try them out in my PP700 or P-Rod. Pretty sure folks here can help me spend my money on something more suitable. Forums are good for that!
That's the ones I shoot out of my impact except they're flat nose not hollow points at around 30 grains.
My mold came with pins so it can be HP or flat nose. Splurged on that. Only could get 2 cavity though, as all the other options were sold out.

Hoping I don't have to buy an Impact to enjoy them though. Awesome that you have one. Currently, don't have the funds to entertain the notion. Maybe some day. In the interim, I hope to find something else a bit less expensive to exercise these slugs.

I originally bought that mold to shoot out of my liberty but the bore is way too tight and sizing them down to.215 basically removed the sealing bands and made the friction way to high to be effective.

avator · « **Reply #1056 on:** March 10, 2024, 03:59:10 PM »

Topped that tin off with the last run. I guesstimate there are 300. Not my best day of casting but with the good to bad ratio I'd say it was pretty productive. I did send 50-60 or so downrange.
"We are closed now"
Time for some good old Betty Lou cooking and some NASCAR.

2A Georgia · « **Reply #1057 on:** March 10, 2024, 06:19:27 PM »

Still tracking some good information. Sunny today so I had to empty the pp800r for it's next tear-down. Put 21 NOE20gr hunters through it and dry fired to empty. I was able to hit cans at 10M one handed with open sights (not every time). I hit the 1.5" reactive and cans once I guesstimated the drop. They required an authoritative closure of the bolt compared to all the 16grs I've tried. I didn't try shot tray as my goal was to empty the air tube and just plink. I then put one magazine through the Notos at 10M. Upper left is 5 shot group, upper middle is 3 shot group (not touching but MOS), lower middle is another 3 shot group and lower right is the last pellet. Best group .3" C-to-C. I warm soapy water brushed the 30cal and 217WC17 4 cavity molds and put them in the toaster oven at 250 degrees for 30 minutes to dry. Might run some 30cal as I'm out and need to see if Thik Girl will make her first Casual Match on LGR Thursday.

avator · « **Reply #1058 on:** March 11, 2024, 02:55:14 PM »

Been testing the 217 20 RF in some of my guns this morning..
I already knew the NoDoze shoots them well.
The Beeman 1358 likes them as much or better.
The Fortitude gives me 1"+ at 30 with an occasional flyer.
But the Xisico Sentry shotguns them as does the FD-PCP.
All of these guns shoot CPUM, CPHP and the JTS 18.1 lights out.
The common ground seems to be the shorter barrel but that may just be coincidence.
I still have several to test them in but that dang Secret Squirrel showed up again when I had the 1358 out.
I hate the way that gun hits me right in the face with a blast of air when I shoot it but that's a story for a different thread.

Madd Hatter · « **Reply #1059 on:** March 11, 2024, 05:42:08 PM »

What is the groove and land diameter?

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