I have just used the washer (usually an M4 washer) around the valve stem method on a Hatsan Invader.Stock I got 36 shots (3 magazines) 905-940 FPS with CPHP .22 cal.After adding the M4 washer I am getting 60 shots (5 magazines) 820-860 FPS with CPHP.The washer around the valve stem method can be used on any Hatsan air gun which has the air tube and valve attached together.
250b shot down to 100b.Airgun High Power, 7.9 hpShot count: 62Low: 643 FPSHi: 844 FPSAvg: 775 FPSSpread: 201 FPSSTD Dev: 59.4 FPS16-Mar-2024 17:22:43,819,FPS,26.8,FT Lbs,16-Mar-2024 17:22:55,828,FPS,27.4,FT Lbs,16-Mar-2024 17:23:03,826,FPS,27.3,FT Lbs,16-Mar-2024 17:23:12,823,FPS,27.1,FT Lbs,16-Mar-2024 17:23:29,842,FPS,28.3,FT Lbs,16-Mar-2024 17:23:37,835,FPS,27.9,FT Lbs,16-Mar-2024 17:23:44,835,FPS,27.9,FT Lbs,16-Mar-2024 17:24:32,837,FPS,28.0,FT Lbs,16-Mar-2024 17:26:20,837,FPS,28.0,FT Lbs,16-Mar-2024 17:26:27,844,FPS,28.5,FT Lbs,16-Mar-2024 17:26:50,844,FPS,28.5,FT Lbs,16-Mar-2024 17:27:08,833,FPS,27.7,FT Lbs,16-Mar-2024 17:27:21,835,FPS,27.9,FT Lbs,16-Mar-2024 17:27:30,835,FPS,27.9,FT Lbs,16-Mar-2024 17:27:45,837,FPS,28.0,FT Lbs,16-Mar-2024 17:27:58,837,FPS,28.0,FT Lbs,16-Mar-2024 17:29:52,840,FPS,28.2,FT Lbs,16-Mar-2024 17:30:03,828,FPS,27.4,FT Lbs,16-Mar-2024 17:30:14,826,FPS,27.3,FT Lbs,16-Mar-2024 17:30:27,833,FPS,27.7,FT Lbs,16-Mar-2024 17:30:58,814,FPS,26.5,FT Lbs,16-Mar-2024 17:31:12,817,FPS,26.7,FT Lbs,16-Mar-2024 17:31:49,828,FPS,27.4,FT Lbs,16-Mar-2024 17:32:00,814,FPS,26.5,FT Lbs,16-Mar-2024 17:33:38,823,FPS,27.1,FT Lbs,16-Mar-2024 17:33:48,803,FPS,25.8,FT Lbs,16-Mar-2024 17:34:13,812,FPS,26.4,FT Lbs,16-Mar-2024 17:34:25,800,FPS,25.6,FT Lbs,16-Mar-2024 17:34:42,805,FPS,25.9,FT Lbs,16-Mar-2024 17:34:59,798,FPS,25.5,FT Lbs,16-Mar-2024 17:35:25,798,FPS,25.5,FT Lbs,16-Mar-2024 17:35:34,789,FPS,24.9,FT Lbs,16-Mar-2024 17:37:07,786,FPS,24.7,FT Lbs,16-Mar-2024 17:37:21,782,FPS,24.4,FT Lbs,16-Mar-2024 17:37:35,777,FPS,24.1,FT Lbs,16-Mar-2024 17:37:47,770,FPS,23.7,FT Lbs,16-Mar-2024 17:38:03,770,FPS,23.7,FT Lbs,16-Mar-2024 17:38:10,768,FPS,23.6,FT Lbs,16-Mar-2024 17:38:21,765,FPS,23.4,FT Lbs,16-Mar-2024 17:38:30,763,FPS,23.3,FT Lbs,16-Mar-2024 17:40:14,756,FPS,22.9,FT Lbs,16-Mar-2024 17:40:22,747,FPS,22.3,FT Lbs,16-Mar-2024 17:40:30,745,FPS,22.2,FT Lbs,16-Mar-2024 17:40:37,742,FPS,22.0,FT Lbs,16-Mar-2024 17:40:46,733,FPS,21.5,FT Lbs,16-Mar-2024 17:40:53,735,FPS,21.6,FT Lbs,16-Mar-2024 17:41:00,724,FPS,20.9,FT Lbs,16-Mar-2024 17:45:32,721,FPS,20.8,FT Lbs,16-Mar-2024 17:46:54,719,FPS,20.7,FT Lbs,16-Mar-2024 17:47:01,712,FPS,20.3,FT Lbs,16-Mar-2024 17:47:07,707,FPS,20.0,FT Lbs,16-Mar-2024 17:47:24,696,FPS,19.4,FT Lbs,16-Mar-2024 17:47:45,698,FPS,19.5,FT Lbs,16-Mar-2024 17:47:55,689,FPS,19.0,FT Lbs,16-Mar-2024 17:49:18,687,FPS,18.9,FT Lbs,16-Mar-2024 17:49:24,687,FPS,18.9,FT Lbs,16-Mar-2024 17:49:29,673,FPS,18.1,FT Lbs,16-Mar-2024 17:49:36,673,FPS,18.1,FT Lbs,16-Mar-2024 17:49:44,666,FPS,17.7,FT Lbs,16-Mar-2024 17:50:02,659,FPS,17.4,FT Lbs,16-Mar-2024 17:50:16,668,FPS,17.8,FT Lbs,16-Mar-2024 17:50:41,643,FPS,16.5,FT Lbs,
Quote from: miksatx on March 17, 2024, 05:42:38 PM250b shot down to 100b.Airgun High Power, 7.9 hpShot count: 62Low: 643 FPSHi: 844 FPSAvg: 775 FPSSpread: 201 FPSSTD Dev: 59.4 FPS16-Mar-2024 17:22:43,819,FPS,26.8,FT Lbs,16-Mar-2024 17:22:55,828,FPS,27.4,FT Lbs,16-Mar-2024 17:23:03,826,FPS,27.3,FT Lbs,16-Mar-2024 17:23:12,823,FPS,27.1,FT Lbs,16-Mar-2024 17:23:29,842,FPS,28.3,FT Lbs,16-Mar-2024 17:23:37,835,FPS,27.9,FT Lbs,16-Mar-2024 17:23:44,835,FPS,27.9,FT Lbs,16-Mar-2024 17:24:32,837,FPS,28.0,FT Lbs,16-Mar-2024 17:26:20,837,FPS,28.0,FT Lbs,16-Mar-2024 17:26:27,844,FPS,28.5,FT Lbs,16-Mar-2024 17:26:50,844,FPS,28.5,FT Lbs,16-Mar-2024 17:27:08,833,FPS,27.7,FT Lbs,16-Mar-2024 17:27:21,835,FPS,27.9,FT Lbs,16-Mar-2024 17:27:30,835,FPS,27.9,FT Lbs,16-Mar-2024 17:27:45,837,FPS,28.0,FT Lbs,16-Mar-2024 17:27:58,837,FPS,28.0,FT Lbs,16-Mar-2024 17:29:52,840,FPS,28.2,FT Lbs,16-Mar-2024 17:30:03,828,FPS,27.4,FT Lbs,16-Mar-2024 17:30:14,826,FPS,27.3,FT Lbs,16-Mar-2024 17:30:27,833,FPS,27.7,FT Lbs,16-Mar-2024 17:30:58,814,FPS,26.5,FT Lbs,16-Mar-2024 17:31:12,817,FPS,26.7,FT Lbs,16-Mar-2024 17:31:49,828,FPS,27.4,FT Lbs,16-Mar-2024 17:32:00,814,FPS,26.5,FT Lbs,16-Mar-2024 17:33:38,823,FPS,27.1,FT Lbs,16-Mar-2024 17:33:48,803,FPS,25.8,FT Lbs,16-Mar-2024 17:34:13,812,FPS,26.4,FT Lbs,16-Mar-2024 17:34:25,800,FPS,25.6,FT Lbs,16-Mar-2024 17:34:42,805,FPS,25.9,FT Lbs,16-Mar-2024 17:34:59,798,FPS,25.5,FT Lbs,16-Mar-2024 17:35:25,798,FPS,25.5,FT Lbs,16-Mar-2024 17:35:34,789,FPS,24.9,FT Lbs,16-Mar-2024 17:37:07,786,FPS,24.7,FT Lbs,16-Mar-2024 17:37:21,782,FPS,24.4,FT Lbs,16-Mar-2024 17:37:35,777,FPS,24.1,FT Lbs,16-Mar-2024 17:37:47,770,FPS,23.7,FT Lbs,16-Mar-2024 17:38:03,770,FPS,23.7,FT Lbs,16-Mar-2024 17:38:10,768,FPS,23.6,FT Lbs,16-Mar-2024 17:38:21,765,FPS,23.4,FT Lbs,16-Mar-2024 17:38:30,763,FPS,23.3,FT Lbs,16-Mar-2024 17:40:14,756,FPS,22.9,FT Lbs,16-Mar-2024 17:40:22,747,FPS,22.3,FT Lbs,16-Mar-2024 17:40:30,745,FPS,22.2,FT Lbs,16-Mar-2024 17:40:37,742,FPS,22.0,FT Lbs,16-Mar-2024 17:40:46,733,FPS,21.5,FT Lbs,16-Mar-2024 17:40:53,735,FPS,21.6,FT Lbs,16-Mar-2024 17:41:00,724,FPS,20.9,FT Lbs,16-Mar-2024 17:45:32,721,FPS,20.8,FT Lbs,16-Mar-2024 17:46:54,719,FPS,20.7,FT Lbs,16-Mar-2024 17:47:01,712,FPS,20.3,FT Lbs,16-Mar-2024 17:47:07,707,FPS,20.0,FT Lbs,16-Mar-2024 17:47:24,696,FPS,19.4,FT Lbs,16-Mar-2024 17:47:45,698,FPS,19.5,FT Lbs,16-Mar-2024 17:47:55,689,FPS,19.0,FT Lbs,16-Mar-2024 17:49:18,687,FPS,18.9,FT Lbs,16-Mar-2024 17:49:24,687,FPS,18.9,FT Lbs,16-Mar-2024 17:49:29,673,FPS,18.1,FT Lbs,16-Mar-2024 17:49:36,673,FPS,18.1,FT Lbs,16-Mar-2024 17:49:44,666,FPS,17.7,FT Lbs,16-Mar-2024 17:50:02,659,FPS,17.4,FT Lbs,16-Mar-2024 17:50:16,668,FPS,17.8,FT Lbs,16-Mar-2024 17:50:41,643,FPS,16.5,FT Lbs,Try adding a washer on the valve stem.I think I added an M4 washer.With the washer on the valve stem I am getting 6 magazines (48 shots) from 250-260 bar to 130-140 bar.The velocity is in the 735 -770 FPS range with Daisy 7.5 grain pellets.
No thanks I’m good with 62 kill shots!
Unscrew the cover from the gauge and slowly unscrew the gauge until the air starts to leak out. Let it go until it stops and then loosen the gauge some more. Continue this until the cylinder is empty.
I wondered about that screw, but wound up unscrewing the manometer to degas. There's nothing about that screw that I saw in the manual... Good to know for the next time as the 2312HP pin is underdesigned, so will fail again and again... I had asked Kadden @ Hatsan USA for a procedure to replace the firing pin, but he said they can't provide one due to safety concerns. This makes no sense! They sell spare Jet 2 air reservoir assemblies with no directions at all from what I've read online. That makes no sense either... What is up with that?? Since the firing pin is located in that assembly, and it must be 100% depressurized before being removed, there's really no reason to not show how to replace a broken firing pin... Kadden is not the best customer service person I've ever dealt with either. Not helpful at all... No matter now... I know the procedure for replacing this part... My Jet 2 is working fine again. 🙂 Charlie in CT
Quote from: ar6man on May 13, 2024, 09:21:15 PMI wondered about that screw, but wound up unscrewing the manometer to degas. There's nothing about that screw that I saw in the manual... Good to know for the next time as the 2312HP pin is underdesigned, so will fail again and again... I had asked Kadden @ Hatsan USA for a procedure to replace the firing pin, but he said they can't provide one due to safety concerns. This makes no sense! They sell spare Jet 2 air reservoir assemblies with no directions at all from what I've read online. That makes no sense either... What is up with that?? Since the firing pin is located in that assembly, and it must be 100% depressurized before being removed, there's really no reason to not show how to replace a broken firing pin... Kadden is not the best customer service person I've ever dealt with either. Not helpful at all... No matter now... I know the procedure for replacing this part... My Jet 2 is working fine again. 🙂 Charlie in CTKadden sent me the parts I needed so he is OK in my view.I remember seeing instructions on how to replace the valve pin.These are roughly the steps to follow.1. Degas the air cylinder2. On the bottom there are 2 hex screws. Remove them.3. Under the hex screws (same hole) there are grub screws.Loosen the grub screws.4. Pull out the air cylinder.5. Open the air cylinder to remove the valve.The valve is part of the air cylinder, and attached with several screws.6. Inside the valve is the valve pin you need to replace.7. Do the same steps in reverse.
Has anyone taken apart the air cylinder on the Jet 1 and if so how did you remove the end that houses the valve.
Quote from: AThomas on May 16, 2024, 03:23:26 PMHas anyone taken apart the air cylinder on the Jet 1 and if so how did you remove the end that houses the valve.I've done this with the Jet 2. With the Jet 1, I believe you'd want to start by unscrewing the air reservoir, which I believe can be done while still charged with air as its hot swappable... Next, from the bottom of the pistol there are 2 sets of screws locking the male plug portion of the air reservoir block in place in the receiver. One set holds the accessory rail on the bottom of the receiver while the other set holds the rear part of the trigger guard into the receiver. In both cases, there will be a top allen head screw and then underneath the allen screw there'll be a second allen set screw. Remove the top Allen head screws and then loosen the bottom allen set screws enough to slide out the air reservoir block. Remove the 4 allen head screws on the air reservoir side of the block. You'll be able to access the 2312 firing pin now to replace it.