Hatsan Jet I/II Discussion

[hfenn]

Very nice group.

Thanks. This is the best I've gotten out of this pistol/carbine. I think it's good for a pistol length barrel at ten yards. I had the shoulder stock on and sat in a lawn chair using a camera tripod for a rest.'I've had fun popping plastic vitamen bottles for offhand plinking. It's furnished with a Centerpoint red dot, DonnyFL adaptor and 0dB thingy.

[PasadenaMike]

Very nice group.

Thanks. This is the best I've gotten out of this pistol/carbine. I think it's good for a pistol length barrel at ten yards. I had the shoulder stock on and sat in a lawn chair using a camera tripod for a rest.'I've had fun popping plastic vitamen bottles for offhand plinking. It's furnished with a Centerpoint red dot, DonnyFL adaptor and 0dB thingy.

0DB thingy I like that

[hfenn]

Very nice group.

Thanks. This is the best I've gotten out of this pistol/carbine. I think it's good for a pistol length barrel at ten yards. I had the shoulder stock on and sat in a lawn chair using a camera tripod for a rest.'I've had fun popping plastic vitamen bottles for offhand plinking. It's furnished with a Centerpoint red dot, DonnyFL adaptor and 0dB thingy.

0DB thingy I like that

It's quite the thing to make the doggy bark go away.

[Rat Sniper (AKA: PaulT58)]

I have a 0db on one and a DonnyFL on the other, both do a pretty good job of keeping them backyard friendly!

[triggerfest]

Talk me in or out a Hatsan Jet I ?

I'm not really a DIY guy, so I expect an airgun to perform pretty well right out of the box. Disassembling an airgun and re-assemble it again, means for me always I have one bolt left suddenly 

The Jet I seems like a fun platform for me. Generally I like carbines.

Still tossing about the caliber as well, probably .177 caliber.

[Rat Sniper (AKA: PaulT58)]

I have one in .22 and .25, but not .177!  I converted the .25 to a Jet 2 by adding the dual cylinder.  The Jet 1 is lighter and more compact, but only has 40cc os air capacity, so tow mage (14 shots) is about all you'll get out of it befor it need to be refilled.  They do sell cylinders separately, so you could get a spare to bring along and double youe shot count.  They aren't really adjustable, especially is you're reluctant to tear into them.  They do have washers behind the hammer spring that can be removed to lower the power, but again, it take disassembling the gun.  Accuracy is pretty decent out to about 20 yards, but not much beyond.  It's my understanding the newer ones are coming with an adapeter for a moderator, which is needed if shooting in a populated area.  They can be loud.   The stock is easy to remove and reattach with no tools required, si it's easy to convert between a pistol and carbine.  I have micro-red dots on mine and they do well with those, but the iron sights are decent also.  The Hatsan Sortie magazines will work with the Jets and give a larger capacity nd you can still use the iron sights if you'd like.  They are fun little plinkers, just be prepared to refill it often!

[Back_Roads]

 Have Jet 1 in .25, it is a pistol range pistol, great side arm and plinker, and not many shots before refills.

[triggerfest]

Thanks guys, your feedback is appreciated and confidence inspiring that I will need one.

I have a high pressure scuba bottle, so I don't mind the filling part to much.

While the .25 is tempting as well, I tend to go for the .22 now as nice cross road between .25 and .177 caliber.

[Rat Sniper (AKA: PaulT58)]

I have found the .25 packs a pretty good wallop and is actually a bit more accurate than the .22.  I really likes the H&N 20 grain FTT Pellets.  But, the .22 does a decent job shooting the cheap Crosman Domed pellets, so it a bit of a trade-off...

[triggerfest]

Now you make me doubt again   

Since I am planning to shoot only sub 20 yards with it anyway. And I am a big .25 fan.

Btw funny enough all my Hatsans (3x) are doing well with H&N pellets. Especially the Baracuda Hunter.

[Rat Sniper (AKA: PaulT58)]

The FTT's (20.01gr) are the only H&N pellet I tried and also the lightest.  I also tried the JSB King's (25.39gr) and Hades (26.54gr) but think they are a bit heavy, so the those Hunters may perform about the same.  Since the Jets are not regulated, you have a shot curve and the POI drop is much more pronounced with the  heavier pellets.  Here is the average FPS/FPE for the pellets I tested:

FTT (20.02gr): 643.4 FPS/18.31 FPE
Kings (25.39gr):  546 FPS/16.81 FPE
Hades:  (26.54gr)  573.8 FPE/19.41 FPE

I refilled after each shot string, and found in interesting the heavier Hades were actually traveling faster than the Kings!

[triggerfest]

Cheers - very interesting numbers, seems true to the advertised power.

There was mentioning of a spare pressure tube for the Jet. Is the pressure tube easy to detach ?

[Rat Sniper (AKA: PaulT58)]

Cheers - very interesting numbers, seems true to the advertised power.

There was mentioning of a spare pressure tube for the Jet. Is the pressure tube easy to detach ?

On the Jet 1 it just unscrews from the valve block.  The air cylinder has it's own valve so it can be removed and attached while under pressure.  The only down side it has to be attached to the airgun to fill it.  So if you want a spare you have to fill it while it's attached to the airgun then remove it and attach another one and fill it.  The first becomes the spare.

[Insanity]

I like mine just as a pistol I bought it to use just as a pistol and AFAIK only one that can be had in .25. If you have seen I even put mine in a case and stashed the stock in the lower part of the case. I would say max fill is not the best as POI vs POA is low then it climbs then drops back off very steeply. Not an issue for me as I have it for cheap pistol practice vs my PBs.

[Back_Roads]

 I forgot to mention my .25 Jet1 shoots 60 gr slugs with the most FPE, have to single load them, they get just a little over 500 fps and just under in one fun mag. Out of the box performance.

[stroo]

I like mine just as a pistol I bought it to use just as a pistol and AFAIK only one that can be had in .25. If you have seen I even put mine in a case and stashed the stock in the lower part of the case. I would say max fill is not the best as POI vs POA is low then it climbs then drops back off very steeply. Not an issue for me as I have it for cheap pistol practice vs my PBs.

That's a good idea!  Does the Jet have similar ergonomics to any PB's?

[2A Georgia]

Trolling this thread as $265 for the Notos is my reality check for the Lego projects I'm considering.
For whatever reason I want a Pistol not carbine or Pistol first carbine easy conversion.
Was looking at converting my 2240 to a drop bottle but I keep coming up with a $300 budget for a single shot carbine....
Logic says Urban/Notos/Jet at that point.
I'm also trolling Airgun Archery Fun as they have a PP800r in Chaser Carbine convertible kit for around $220.
I'm okay with hand pumping a 40cc cylinder but I'd like to see a mag sized shot string without having to adjust POI....hence the regulated 800r or Notos/Urban

[Insanity]

I like mine just as a pistol I bought it to use just as a pistol and AFAIK only one that can be had in .25. If you have seen I even put mine in a case and stashed the stock in the lower part of the case. I would say max fill is not the best as POI vs POA is low then it climbs then drops back off very steeply. Not an issue for me as I have it for cheap pistol practice vs my PBs.

That's a good idea!  Does the Jet have similar ergonomics to any PB's?

None in particular that I have shot.

[PasadenaMike]

Trolling this thread as $265 for the Notos is my reality check for the Lego projects I'm considering.
For whatever reason I want a Pistol not carbine or Pistol first carbine easy conversion.
Was looking at converting my 2240 to a drop bottle but I keep coming up with a $300 budget for a single shot carbine....
Logic says Urban/Notos/Jet at that point.
I'm also trolling Airgun Archery Fun as they have a PP800r in Chaser Carbine convertible kit for around $220.
I'm okay with hand pumping a 40cc cylinder but I'd like to see a mag sized shot string without having to adjust POI....hence the regulated 800r or Notos/Urban

100% Notos. I’ve had and shot all you’ve mentioned and the Notos is still with me the rest have been sold or returned

[2A Georgia]

Trolling this thread as $265 for the Notos is my reality check for the Lego projects I'm considering.
For whatever reason I want a Pistol not carbine or Pistol first carbine easy conversion.
Was looking at converting my 2240 to a drop bottle but I keep coming up with a $300 budget for a single shot carbine....
Logic says Urban/Notos/Jet at that point.
I'm also trolling Airgun Archery Fun as they have a PP800r in Chaser Carbine convertible kit for around $220.
I'm okay with hand pumping a 40cc cylinder but I'd like to see a mag sized shot string without having to adjust POI....hence the regulated 800r or Notos/Urban

100% Notos. I’ve had and shot all you’ve mentioned and the Notos is still with me the rest have been sold or returned

That helps sir.  Somebody else I respect and trust stomps around the WMA with me with an Airforce Escape UL in .25 cal just bought a Notos and he's very accurate and happy with it.
I'll keep trolling PA, I should have just took the beating from memsahib during the PA birthday sale....lol
Public Land squirrel season starts August 15th here in GA so I've got time for a sale.  Sounds like out the box add optic and enjoy.  And small enough to hand pump...what's not to like?