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hzyl0402
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Rebuild my 48, questions!
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November 02, 2011, 01:19:07 PM »
All right guys,
Just checked the tracking info, JM's lube combo and new seal will come today, and I am going to dissemble my RWS 48 again tonight. Here are some of questions by far in my mind, and I think more will be coming when I am doing the job.
1. I have a bottle of isopropyl alcohol, 70% by volume for first aid, can I use it for cleaning?
2. Is kitchen towel OK for internal part wiping?
3. As told by Dustin in my previous topic " The moly for the outside of the seal , clear tar for outside of compression tube and heavy tar for the spring." I want to know how much should I use them?
Anything you might think a newbie should know, please feel free to point out!
Thank you all!
Liang
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Mark 611
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Re: Rebuild my 48, questions!
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Reply #1 on:
November 02, 2011, 01:32:16 PM »
I know my friends will have differing opinions of how I do things so you need to take in all the info you can here here's how I do it, I know some guys burnish lube {Molly or other} into the compression tube I don't because I don't want any dieseling or any detonation issues! so I don't use any lube in the tube accept on the back side of the piston seal and only a very thin coating that you can see thru just a light film! and then I rub Molly about an inch behind the seal and at the other end of the piston here again very thin! I use Molly on all my moving parts outside of the compression area here again alittle gos along way! I'll stop here and let some one else put their 2ct in and if you need to talk to me about this I'll give you PH#
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Re: Rebuild my 48, questions!
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November 02, 2011, 01:48:55 PM »
ARH also sells piston buttons. Could use an expert tuners opinion on this also. Also a 1/2" wooden dowel and cut a slit down the middle where you can attach a rag to clean the cylinder.
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Mark 611
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Re: Rebuild my 48, questions!
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November 02, 2011, 01:58:00 PM »
Usually when I do a tune I'll polish the piston and clean it with brake cleaner or other like starting fluid because it will dry up any oils left behind or buffing compound! if you want to button a piston clean it as said place the buttons every 120 degrees around the piston than then you'll have to sand them to fit the compression tube.
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Indiana
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Gary
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Re: Rebuild my 48, questions!
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Reply #4 on:
November 02, 2011, 01:59:24 PM »
The alcohol you have will work.
I use the moly on the compression tube very sparingly and then wipe out with a clean paper towel. Also behind the seal and at the rear of the piston ad on other moving parts such as cocking lever pins etc.
Clear tar on the outside of the compression tube.
Heavy tar on the spring. Do not glob it on. I try to make my spring look like it has been painted. Use to much and the rifle will shoot real slow.
Gary
PS: A little moly on the guide and spring ends. Just remember a little goes a long way.
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hzyl0402
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Re: Rebuild my 48, questions!
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Reply #5 on:
November 02, 2011, 02:11:23 PM »
Thanks guys, just check the mail box, and here they are! I can't wait no longer, let do it!
let me dissemble my gun, and I will let you know what's going on.
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hzyl0402
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Re: Rebuild my 48, questions!
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Reply #6 on:
November 02, 2011, 02:33:28 PM »
Now every thing is out. looks like I used too many heavy tar last time....
Next step, Alcohol + kitchen towel!
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hzyl0402
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Re: Rebuild my 48, questions!
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Reply #7 on:
November 02, 2011, 02:40:07 PM »
Here is JM's spring, look at the tar, is it still too thick? should I clean it up and recoat with lighter heavy tar?
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Gary
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Re: Rebuild my 48, questions!
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Reply #8 on:
November 02, 2011, 02:43:51 PM »
A lot of tar on that spring, I would clean it off and try again.
Gary
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Mark 611
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Re: Rebuild my 48, questions!
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November 02, 2011, 03:00:03 PM »
yes sir thats allot!
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Indiana
In the words of my friend OC Bolding he told me if ur gonna Dance with DEVIL you got to wear the shoes!!!!! How true this is!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Let he who is without SIN cast the first stone!
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hzyl0402
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Re: Rebuild my 48, questions!
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Reply #10 on:
November 02, 2011, 03:51:36 PM »
How about now? is it too light? and should I lube the rear spring guide? and how?
Liang
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JimL911
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Re: Rebuild my 48, questions!
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Reply #11 on:
November 02, 2011, 03:59:06 PM »
I use a little more tar. I run light strings down the length of spring at 12,3,6 and 9 o'clock. Normal use will spread it.
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Mark 611
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Re: Rebuild my 48, questions!
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Reply #12 on:
November 02, 2011, 03:59:58 PM »
ya that's a tic to light, rub enough on the out side of the spring to lightly cover it I try to string it like a spied er web! and use a light coat of molly on the tips of the spring ends and spring guide needs a light coat of molly as well
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Indiana
In the words of my friend OC Bolding he told me if ur gonna Dance with DEVIL you got to wear the shoes!!!!! How true this is!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
54 JUNKYARD AIRGUNS FORUM MEMBER!!!!!
When good men are silent only evil is heard!
Let he who is without SIN cast the first stone!
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HW95 .22cal
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hzyl0402
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Re: Rebuild my 48, questions!
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Reply #13 on:
November 02, 2011, 05:08:45 PM »
seal problem solved.
here is the piston, seal coated with light moly and end of the piston with light moly. is there anything I should do before put it into compression chamber?
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Mark 611
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Re: Rebuild my 48, questions!
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Reply #14 on:
November 02, 2011, 06:34:09 PM »
nope!
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Indiana
In the words of my friend OC Bolding he told me if ur gonna Dance with DEVIL you got to wear the shoes!!!!! How true this is!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
54 JUNKYARD AIRGUNS FORUM MEMBER!!!!!
When good men are silent only evil is heard!
Let he who is without SIN cast the first stone!
Beeman R1 carbine .20cal X2
HW95 .22cal
HW50 .20cal X2
HW50 .22cal
HW35 .177cal
U.K. Webley Tomahawk .22cal
Diana T06 460mag .22cal
Cometa Fenix 400 compact.22cal
hzyl0402
Plinker
Posts: 173
Re: Rebuild my 48, questions!
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Reply #15 on:
November 02, 2011, 06:36:49 PM »
Finally!!! I finished!!! This thing is sweet! the machinery has no noisy at all! Like the clear tar very much, just a little can make the gun super smooth.
Thanks again everyone!
Liang
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Last Edit: November 02, 2011, 11:57:10 PM by hzyl0402
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Mark 611
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Re: Rebuild my 48, questions!
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Reply #16 on:
November 02, 2011, 06:48:07 PM »
Glad we could help!
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Indiana
In the words of my friend OC Bolding he told me if ur gonna Dance with DEVIL you got to wear the shoes!!!!! How true this is!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
54 JUNKYARD AIRGUNS FORUM MEMBER!!!!!
When good men are silent only evil is heard!
Let he who is without SIN cast the first stone!
Beeman R1 carbine .20cal X2
HW95 .22cal
HW50 .20cal X2
HW50 .22cal
HW35 .177cal
U.K. Webley Tomahawk .22cal
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ray in wi
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Posts: 189
Re: Rebuild my 48, questions!
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Reply #17 on:
November 02, 2011, 09:00:27 PM »
Wow! That was awesome the way you guys helped out on this tune!!! This is great place to visit!!
About the only other thing I would have suggested is to take a fine to medium file and take all the burrs off the tube, piston and cocking shoe, but hey, you can do it next time.
Ray
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Mark 611
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Re: Rebuild my 48, questions!
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Reply #18 on:
November 02, 2011, 09:09:09 PM »
ray they don't have a cocking shoe or a slot to worry about like a break barrel!
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Indiana
In the words of my friend OC Bolding he told me if ur gonna Dance with DEVIL you got to wear the shoes!!!!! How true this is!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
54 JUNKYARD AIRGUNS FORUM MEMBER!!!!!
When good men are silent only evil is heard!
Let he who is without SIN cast the first stone!
Beeman R1 carbine .20cal X2
HW95 .22cal
HW50 .20cal X2
HW50 .22cal
HW35 .177cal
U.K. Webley Tomahawk .22cal
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s10gto
Expert
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Re: Rebuild my 48, questions!
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Reply #19 on:
November 02, 2011, 11:14:24 PM »
Nice Job Liang!
Enjoy
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