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TCups
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Why you never want to be part of a tank crew. Awesome
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September 01, 2010, 07:35:10 PM »
Someone sent me this. I can't verify it, but it sure seems like the real deal.
The latest in Israeli "rocks" to use against Goliath enemies. Awsome! (It is 99.997% accurate with a similar total target destruction ratio!)
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What you are about to watch is an actual event. Our forces filmed this in actual time. What you are about to see is a fully armored Syrian tank being hit by an Israeli laser-guided, steel-penetrating, phosphorous-filled "hand held" rocket. The rocket is small, very portable and is a tightly controlled weapon, each one is accounted for when they are checked out and back in. There must be no fewer than 2 soldiers present to verify the use, one must be a senior officer with a minimum of 10 years military service. (Sorry, the name and program is kept secret.)
This tank was headed for one of Israel 's settlements, there were four more tanks one mile to the rear of this tank. (They turned around before getting to this area.)
You can hear the ammunition going off after the initial strike. No tank member survived this event. this event did not make the news, it is an everyday event for our forces and we do not "embed" news sources with our armed forces like the Americans do. This is for our survival, not for "news" entertainment!
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Big_Bill
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Re: Why you never want to be part of a tank crew. Awesome
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September 01, 2010, 08:06:19 PM »
Tommy,
I think you should have said "NOTHING SURVIVED" !!!!
Being a tank driver isn't too bad,,,, unless your Syrian,,,, and heading to Israel !
Bill
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uncle paulie
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Re: Why you never want to be part of a tank crew. Awesome
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September 01, 2010, 08:26:39 PM »
Neat stuff, but I'm wondering if the fireworks display was a result of the rocket or the ordinance carried by the tank. Back in the day, we used "laws" (hand held rockets) to penetrate 1-2in. armor plating. They would pretty much kill anything inside after they burned through the shell and detonated inside. I think these or a new and improved version are still in use by our forces. It would seem the Israeli version has some sort of guidance system which our didn't have. Either way, they're pretty awesome and were a blast to fire.
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Re: Why you never want to be part of a tank crew. Awesome
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September 02, 2010, 12:27:28 AM »
It looks to me to be wire guided (based on it's flight) like the US TOW family of missiles. Heat seeking will generally rise up above the target, search for the heat signature, then come down from above. I believe the fire was the ordinance carried and not the rocket. Most anti-tank weapons use the shape charge principal to penetrate the armor. I don't know if phosphorus can be added into the explosive design of the shape charge. Maybe their weapons designers found away.
Nathan
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September 02, 2010, 08:02:01 AM »
I had fired 6 or 8 of these in the service, they seemed to have a slight delay between hitting the target and detonation. They said they do burn through the armor and explode inside. Don't know if it was phosphorus, but it seemed to do the job! I was pretty lucky in the service as I was able to play with a whole bunch of toys. If you think these are neat, you should see what a howitzer can do at close range, at 1/2 to 1 mile, you get to see all the glory. Fun stuff!
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September 02, 2010, 11:31:08 AM »
They may not always need a secondary charge to explode after piercing armor. With the shaped charges used to penetrate armor (and like the depleted uranium round of the Ambams tanks), the tremendous force created by breaching the armor liquefies the armor at the point of impact. All that liquid metal sprays everything inside the tank, which not only sprays the crew, but can also cook off any ammo exposed to the hot molten spray.
Paul
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RedFeather
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September 03, 2010, 02:15:38 AM »
'Nuff said.
Following Desert Storm, we were driving down to New Orleans and taking a break at a rest stop somewhere in Mississippi (?). There was one of those ex-Iraqi T72M tanks on a flatbed trailer over in the truck lane. Might have been a US Army transport. What was noticeable, aside from the desert camouflage scheme, were the many, many holes riddling the turret and body. Had more than enough to qualify for the Swiss Army. (Cheesy joke, no?) Don't know if it was for target practice or an A10 Whart Hog worked it over. Made me glad I had been in submarines, baby!
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September 03, 2010, 09:20:05 AM »
This is a very impressive demonstration of an antitank missile. However it is not the situation as described. I was suspicious when I saw the video and did some googling. What made me suspicious?
1. The situation described is hardly a realistic tactical use of a tank. Even the Syrians as smart enough not to send a lone tank out a mile ahead of other tanks.
2. The country side does not look much like the area near the Israel/Syrian border.
3. The tank does not look like a Soviet era tank. Syrian uses T62 / T72 tanks. They have curved turrets. Such as seen in Red's post above.
It turns out that video is a demo of a Swedish antitank missile the Bofors BILL.
Here is a more complete video
Note that antitank missiles that use shaped charges never need an additional exploding charge. The molten metal caused by the shaped charge does plenty of damage.
Mike Tipton
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