Hatsan Speedfire Magnum 1250 Multi-Shot Vortex (.22 cal) Air Rifle

[SpringGuns63]

Has anyone bought a Hatsan Speedfire Magnum 1250 Multi-Shot Vortex (.22 cal) Air Rifle? If so, what did you think of it? Any issues? How does it compare to the Gamo Swarm Magnum Gen 2 if you have both?  I really haven't been able to find much on it. Thanks.

[Novagun]

I am the least qualified to comment but I will start off the dialogue. Just last week I shot a Gamo Mach 1 reported at 1250 fps. Yea right. I put it over the the chrony with 15.88 gns pellets and it averaged 826 fps so much for 1250 fps . It was hard to cock and even for an IGT was not pleasant to shoot.  secondly, I reckon if you need speed reloading for an air rifle you should not be out pest hunting and you certainly don-t need it for target shooting.. so don't worry about gimmicks. All the Gano Swarms are fundamentally the same. Hatsan is just following the biggest airgun maker in the world.
Now a real gunners airgun could be a Gamo CFX or CFR with a gas piston  , a decent trigger and a proper muzzle without plastic and a non investment company price   
What a lot of tripe  I am signing off

[Toxylon]

So that Hugh didn't feel so awkward in this deadish cocktail party, I'll join the convo.

It may be there aren't too many buyers for such guns around these parts.

In general, my experience is that Hatsan makes way better airguns than Gamo, kinda like comparing Leatherman multitools to Chinese knock-off SAK's, as far as utility goes. Most Gamos don't even fit my (average) frame or shooting style, but I've yet to handle a Hatsan that didn't feel good to shoulder and aim from the get go. So, I would choose Hatsan over Gamo, 95 % of the time.

From what I've seen, the multi-shot features on springers work mostly intermittently, and are more of a liability than an asset in the field. Many Swarm users have ditched the "magazine", for instance.

Hatsan makes worthy airguns, but precisely made they are not. Anything intricate, such as a multi-shot feature, may be just too sloppily made to be worth having.

One of the great advantages of a single-shot breakbarrel springer is that there is almost nothing that can go wrong while loading the gun. You can slam a new pellet in there with great speed if need to, and slam the barrel back up -  the gun (or shot) doesn't mind. Not so with other, more complicated platforms.

[lefteyeshot]

With the Speedfire I can't get past the ugly. The .22 muzzle velocity is probably more like 850. I got several Hatsans. Springer 135, 155, Dominator carbine, Webly Tomahawk and Jaguar. Gas ram Striker and my favorite Hatsan Proxima under lever repeater.

Had a Gen1 Swarm. It's now a single shot tac driver with a steel spring and a 10oz GRT trigger. Also have an old Silent Cat and Shadow 1000, both with GRT triggers.

If you can aford it I think you would be better served and happier with a Hatsan Proxima. Or in the same price range as a Speedfire a Umarex Synergis.

Proxima and Synergis work the same way except on the Proxima you can't move the cocking lever forward on an empty magazine.

I don't understand the bad reviews. The people wrote them sound like they have zero mechanical aptitude. One guy asked how the magazine knew to index the next round. Both work flawlessly for me.

I also have a Mendoza RM2800 and RM 2000 break barrel repeaters with tube magazines on top of the receivers. They work good. Pellet needs a little help chambering now and tthen.

I do like my springer gas ram repeaters though I do wish they all came with steel springs and wood stocks.

[SpringGuns63]

I want to thank those that replied, even though none of you have one your replies have made me look at it from other perspectives. I admit the gun is not the best looking and have heard Hatsan had and continues to have a higher rate of gas piston failures compared to other manufacturers. I think I will hold off buying one.