Diana Gen 2 Stormrider syn or Beeman chief ll plus Syn.

[desertplinker]

Looking for an entry level low cost PCP in 177 for target shooting. Don't need power, just punching paper. Like a mag synthetic is ok.

[Back_Roads]

 Stormrider

[Blacktalon6]

I have a storm rider in .22 It is nice and lite. I use it more with the single shot tray than the mag now. But the mag worked well and never gave me problems I just like taking my time shooting. Oh and mine is a first gen.

[Mr Fluffy Tail]

stormrider is awesome, hard not to mod um, good learning platform .. i like the wood, has a mag, an extra is nice, little things aint cheap though ..

[EdinGa]

I've got 2 gen 2 stormriders. One is a .177 and the other is has been regulated and converted to .25 caliber. Both have been problem free and accurate.

[K.O.]

well honestly my luck in the barrel dept has not been great at the cheap  end of the pool... don't get me wrong have good luck also...

having a bit of an issue right now with my Icon got it on sale buds gunshop...shot well at  first then the barrel damage showed up...rifling chewed by a piloted crown tool while that chewed what is supposed to be a crown... sent it in for repair and just got my rifle back... well they did not look down the barrel they sent it back with... it has even worse damage by the same tool/process... .3" of totally wiped out rifling... so will have to see, so far three quality control failures china, crosman and crosman customer service/repair...  hope I end up with a good barrel..
 Chose the crosman Model because of parts & support... so come on guys all ya have to do is shine a light look down barrel and give please me an undamaged barrel... the kicker is it is a process that needs not be done... barrel has a protector screwed on the end... just need a flat end...no need to go further...we can finish it our selves with a brass screw if we choose to...

well any ways better trigger than Urban on mine... like it a lot...way I am using it has bout 20 2% es shots from a starting fill of 2600 psi...  892 to 907 back down to 890 with 14.3g pellets

Has good potential...already have an replacement wood stock that I want to use...From the Iconic Remington  513 T ...tis a 7 pound rifle...


So yea I like my picky little clearance gen 1 Stormrider... very lightweight...only likes AA 10.3 and JSB K.O. 13g...

an over ported(stock)  little monster.. but mine has the same as the icon... very poor quality barrel work... I really should see about giving it a chopping and  a new crown and maybe recheck the leade...  and another longer barrel..

little guy just keeps on shooting nasty accurate at 35 yards with what it likes... 25 ish fpe stock with  heavy pellets... son got him for me @ $129  Need to Make a stock extension lop is way short for me...

If they happen get Maximus back in stock... well I have three...one heavy ported to 50fpe in .22 love the simplicity...

Urbans Yotes and Buccs are nice if you can find one at a good price...

every once in a while can get a good deal on refurbished at Hatsan... got a AT44 L .22 pre QE close out for 219$ a while ago... Heavy with big air tank like my .25 Mrods... but a 44 fpe .22 stock with 30g BBT...

just might push the fpe up to about 60 some day...right now JSB 18g are a  1080 fps laser to about 35 yards...need to reseal and try some more slugs and heavier pellets... 

so yep there are some good deals... some may need tuning/blueprinting...and would still choose the Icon over the Chief II plus... can't help it been a Crosman /Benji guy for 50+ years...

they all can also be tuned down for your chosen target fpe level...

[K.O.]

for just a bit more than Storm the Fortitude is worth a look also..

[DonC]

Stoeger XM1 is the best version of stormrider. thumhoe and bi-pod is optional.
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[avator]

Stoeger XM1 is the best version of stormrider. thumhoe and bi-pod is optional.
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First time seeing this one.

[Mr. Panther]

I have the Chief 2plus syn. It is a good gun, at least I like it. Probably more accurate than I am , but the rifles usually hits what I point it at with small groups out past 30 yards. With expensive match ammo you would do fine, I only shoot what my budget allows LOL.  All in all a great gun for the money.

[Ribbonstone]

There is a flock of inexpensive PCP’s….do have one question: how do you plan on filling it?

Anyway, keeping to your first post...power not important, .177, and targets rather than hunting.  .177 is my choice for general playing around (although I tend to LOWER their power rather than boost it up)l.

1. Stormrider.  Can include the Stoeger XM’s as Stormriders in disguise….and for a $260 the airgunarcheryfun version that comes regulated (which would help with the shot count).

2. Chief II (guess you could put the Beeman Commander in there too).  My complaint about Beeman is there is no support or parts to be had.

3. A bit surprised to see the Flash QE in this price range...I’d have to consider that one, but suspect it will come out of the box more powerful than I’d want.

4. Other than a few semi-preofessional’s early test vids, no real world information on the Gamo Arrow. I’d like it to be a good rifle, but I really don’t care for the T-handle cocking.

5. Would have to shop around a bit for an Icon..the prices do vary from place to place.

[BC81]

Have owned both. I say stormrider Gen 2.

Parts are available for it, its easier to fill, lighter, smaller, and has more power.

Also, the chief 2 is basically the same gun as the crosman icon. The 177s seem to be good, the 22s seem to be having issues.

[wll2506]

The Chief II Plus in 177 is one of my favorite guns, it's extremely tunable. .

I get close to 40 shots shooting shooting Monsters in the 850fps area and can tune it way down to get more shots for can shooting.

I REALLY like that gun, and have used it a lot.

I have the Stormrider also in 177 and it is a nice, light gun, but for me it's the Chief II Plus Synthetic !!

Don't get this gun confused with the Chief or Chief II !!! The PLUS is a different animal, it's a 3000psi tank, not a 2000psi tank !

wll

[desertplinker]

thanks for the info, I knew the chief ll plus was 3000 psi fill, not much info on the chief ll plus syn.. And Ribbonstone, I have a tank and a compressor to fill with. Never liked pumping, kind of old for that.

[K.O.]

thanks for the info, I knew the chief ll plus was 3000 psi fill, not much info on the chief ll plus syn.. And Ribbonstone, I have a tank and a compressor to fill with. Never liked pumping, kind of old for that.

 

for long term honestly would go with the Icon over the Chief II plus... and actually it is Chief II Plus-s for Synthetic...II plus is just calling it a shorter name...



Honestly there is more than one reason for me choosing the Icon... Chief(see waht I did there  ) among them is long term support... am gambling it will be like all other Crosman branded rifles...may want to mod valve/stuff in future...parts support safety blanket if I mess up matters... think the odds are in my favor... 

Second... it has a better trigger/safety setup IMO...

Third... would rather have have 1/2 unf threaded Muzzle...

Fourth... I actually like bolt action... if Barra 1100z is included in choices...

the con on the Icon for me is the stock... But like I said I have an Iconic stock standing on the wings...
 

[BC81]

The Chief II Plus in 177 is one of my favorite guns, it's extremely tunable. .

I get close to 40 shots shooting shooting Monsters in the 850fps area and can tune it way down to get more shots for can shooting.

I REALLY like that gun, and have used it a lot.

I have the Stormrider also in 177 and it is a nice, light gun, but for me it's the Chief II Plus Synthetic !!

Don't get this gun confused with the Chief or Chief II !!! The PLUS is a different animal, it's a 3000psi tank, not a 2000psi tank !

wll

I couldn't get mine to do more than 830 with 10.65s for 36 shots before dropping off. Odd the two are so different.

[BC81]

I'll toss this in there too... what about the new Barra 1100z? Getting good reviews thus far and only $275 for the black synthetic version.

[K.O.]

I'll toss this in there too... what about the new Barra 1100z? Getting good reviews thus far and only $275 for the black synthetic version.

well depends on how support develops with the brand... If you are one who demands a sidelever then is the only Choice...

[wll2506]

The Chief II Plus in 177 is one of my favorite guns, it's extremely tunable. .

I get close to 40 shots shooting shooting Monsters in the 850fps area and can tune it way down to get more shots for can shooting.

I REALLY like that gun, and have used it a lot.

I have the Stormrider also in 177 and it is a nice, light gun, but for me it's the Chief II Plus Synthetic !!

Don't get this gun confused with the Chief or Chief II !!! The PLUS is a different animal, it's a 3000psi tank, not a 2000psi tank !

wll

I couldn't get mine to do more than 830 with 10.65s for 36 shots before dropping off. Odd the two are so different.

My last report was 4-11-21 on this gun, but I did others on it too.

I marked the back and hammer spring plug and turn it down every about 7 shots to keep the velocity as level as I can.

As I remember the spring is very loose.

Like I said it has been a while !

wll

[desertplinker]

End of this story. The op (me) just hit the buy button on a Stormrider Gen 2 Synthetic. Just a tad over two Benjamins with free shipping. Watched Tyler on Pyramid do an install of a Reg and on the Stormrider I cannot see how it could be easier. Will have to wait on the Reg when I get a couple more bucks in the air gun funds for the Reg.