Crosman Summit Ranger

[A.K.A. Tommy Boy]

Hey guys, does the Vantage have the same powerplant as the Summit Ranger ?

Thank you,

wll

The Vantage has the original Nitro Piston power plant (to the best of my knowledge) and the Summit Ranger has the NP2 power plant. I believe they share a similar stroke or possibly the same, but the NP(1) system has a 25mm piston while the NP2 has a 29mm piston. Also, the NP2 gas ram body is inverted from the NP gas ram (unless they've changed the gas ram orientation in the "standard" NP guns...?).

That's correct Zack.

The Vantage has the original NP gas ram and the Summit Ranger has the NP2 gas ram that has the inverted configuration.
Long term storage on Vantages is barrel down and long term storage on Summit Rangers is barrel up.


Best Wishes - Tom

[wll2506]

@A.K.A. Tommy Boy

Tom. I just bought two of the Hammers 3-9x32AO scopes, I think they will be a good fit on the Vantage ---- Thank you for the info :-)

wll

[Blowpipe Sam]

The Vantage has the original NP gas ram and the Summit Ranger has the NP2 gas ram that has the inverted configuration.
Long term storage on Vantages is barrel down and long term storage on Summit Rangers is barrel up.

Good to know.  Thanks!

I shot both Summit rangers this evening.  I could not repeat the groups I shot a few days ago with the .22 but the .177 shot very accurately out to 65 yards with H&N Sniper mediums and Crosman pointed pellets (no wind).  I also managed some 100 yard shots shooting at snags in the river  but the groups would have been about nine or ten inches.  Compared to some of my other cheap springers the trigger is pretty good and makes for a smooth follow through.

[A.K.A. Tommy Boy]

The Vantage has the original NP gas ram and the Summit Ranger has the NP2 gas ram that has the inverted configuration.
Long term storage on Vantages is barrel down and long term storage on Summit Rangers is barrel up.

Good to know.  Thanks!

I shot both Summit rangers this evening.  I could not repeat the groups I shot a few days ago with the .22 but the .177 shot very accurately out to 65 yards with H&N Sniper mediums and Crosman pointed pellets (no wind).  I also managed some 100 yard shots shooting at snags in the river  but the groups would have been about nine or ten inches.  Compared to some of my other cheap springers the trigger is pretty good and makes for a smooth follow through.

Hi Carter

Gee Whiz....That's troubling to hear.

You could try re-torqueing your rifle stock screws and checking your scope mount clamping screws. Also check for scope movement inside the rings.
If it doesn't improve then try cleaning the barrel real good, then shoot about 100 shots thru it to re-season the barrel.

My Summit Ranger is pretty consistent and it has not been pellet picky.
I've shot Hades pullets thru it,  as well as H&N FTT,  Gamo Red Fire,  JSB's plus various others etc.

Best Wishes - Tom

[A.K.A. Tommy Boy]

@A.K.A. Tommy Boy

Tom. I just bought two of the Hammers 3-9x32AO scopes, I think they will be a good fit on the Vantage ---- Thank you for the info :-)

wll

Hi Will

You are most welcome.
I hope they work out well for you.

I really liked the Hammers 3-9x32AO scope that I had.
I think that it is very likely that I will buy a few more.
Quite possibly... I may outfit all my rifles with them... eventually


Best Wishes - Tom

[ER00z]

The Vantage has the original NP gas ram and the Summit Ranger has the NP2 gas ram that has the inverted configuration.
Long term storage on Vantages is barrel down and long term storage on Summit Rangers is barrel up.

Good to know.  Thanks!

I shot both Summit rangers this evening.  I could not repeat the groups I shot a few days ago with the .22 but the .177 shot very accurately out to 65 yards with H&N Sniper mediums and Crosman pointed pellets (no wind).  I also managed some 100 yard shots shooting at snags in the river  but the groups would have been about nine or ten inches.  Compared to some of my other cheap springers the trigger is pretty good and makes for a smooth follow through.

Hi Carter

Gee Whiz....That's troubling to hear.

You could try re-torqueing your rifle stock screws and checking your scope mount clamping screws. Also check for scope movement inside the rings.
If it doesn't improve then try cleaning the barrel real good, then shoot about 100 shots thru it to re-season the barrel.

My Summit Ranger is pretty consistent and it has not been pellet picky.
I've shot Hades pullets thru it,  as well as H&N FTT,  Gamo Red Fire,  JSB's plus various others etc.

Best Wishes - Tom

Sorry to hear the .22 didn't perform great. Hopefully it's something simple, maybe one of the things Tom mentioned to go through. The only other thing I can think to check is the barrel pivot bolt for tightness (snug). If nothing works out, I guess try open sights to see how things go. Good to hear the 177 is doing well, so not all bad news.

[Blowpipe Sam]

Sorry to hear the .22 didn't perform great. Hopefully it's something simple, maybe one of the things Tom mentioned to go through. The only other thing I can think to check is the barrel pivot bolt for tightness (snug). If nothing works out, I guess try open sights to see how things go. Good to hear the 177 is doing well, so not all bad news.

Probably the shooter and not the gun!  I got some good groups out of it at thirty yards with the FTT.  When I tried to stretch that out to 50-60 yards the groups opened up to around three inches.  All the screws are tight (this ain’t my first springer).  It’s probably just a matter of finding the right pellet.  So far FTT’s have shot best in it.  IMO The .177 shoots flatter so it’s easier to shoot accurately at long range.  Long range for me is anything past thirty yards.  There is on doubt in my mind that this is an accurate gun.  I’m just not shooting it right.  Yet.

The .177 shoots well with light pellets.  Not so well with heavy ones leading me to think that the barrel is a bit long. I’d like it to shoot heavier pellets but I doubt that I’ll use this gun to hunt much past thirty yards so it ain’t critical.  7.4 grain pellets will work fine on rabbits and squirrels!