Alchemy SUPER UPGRADED Crosman 362 RIFLE

[moose]

Only cost me $166….to build my .177 including the steel breech….good luck

Very interested in that !!   

[bantam5s]

 

fug·ly
/ˈfəɡli/
adjectiveINFORMAL
very ugly or unattractive.

Yeah, who puts a stock of an FN light  machinegun on a single shot air rifle ?

[tennx]

Only cost me $166….to build my .177 including the steel breech….good luck

Very interested in that !!

to clarify,that was the cost of gun,.177 barrell and breech…of course LDC and scope was extra…..good luck

Disco barrel is 24”…local gunsmith said he would cut and crown if I brought just the barrel in…we didnt talk price….havent decided yet…since its a bench gun…

[Keepingitsimple]

Only cost me $166….to build my .177 including the steel breech….good luck

Very interested in that !!

to clarify,that was the cost of gun,.177 barrell and breech…of course LDC and scope was extra…..good luck

Disco barrel is 24”…local gunsmith said he would cut and crown if I brought just the barrel in…we didnt talk price….havent decided yet…since its a bench gun…

You might want to leave it at 24 inches, Phil.

After reading David Grimes description of the performance of the 24 inch barrel:
"I have not chronied yet, but in testing it passed through 32 layers of cardboard in my poor man's chrony testing! The .22 passes through 20 +/- layers. Unbelievable penetration!"

I too use Grimes 'poor mans chrony' for my testing. Pity he didn't say specifically how many layers of cardboard were penetrated...'20 +/- layers' is a little imprecise for my taste.

Anyway, the .177 evidently exceeds the penetration of the .22. But, by how much? 20% 25%?
Be nice to nail that down.

[tennx]

Only cost me $166….to build my .177 including the steel breech….good luck

Very interested in that !!

to clarify,that was the cost of gun,.177 barrell and breech…of course LDC and scope was extra…..good luck

Disco barrel is 24”…local gunsmith said he would cut and crown if I brought just the barrel in…we didnt talk price….havent decided yet…since its a bench gun…

You might want to leave it at 24 inches, Phil.

After reading David Grimes description of the performance of the 24 inch barrel:
"I have not chronied yet, but in testing it passed through 32 layers of cardboard in my poor man's chrony testing! The .22 passes through 20 +/- layers. Unbelievable penetration!"

I too use Grimes 'poor mans chrony' for my testing. Pity he didn't say specifically how many layers of cardboard were penetrated...'20 +/- layers' is a little imprecise for my taste.

Anyway, the .177 evidently exceeds the penetration of the .22. But, by how much? 20% 25%?
Be nice to nail that down.

My chroniy test is will the pellet (.177/22) go thru a chili can @ 25 yards…LOL…I’m good………..good luck

[Keepingitsimple]

My chroniy test is will the pellet (.177/22) go thru a chili can @ 25 yards…LOL…I’m good………..good luck

I'm going to call that guy bright and early Monday morning and see if I can change my order from the .22 parts I ordered to the .177 parts.

[Keepingitsimple]

fug·ly
/ˈfəɡli/
adjectiveINFORMAL
very ugly or unattractive.

Yeah, who puts a stock of an FN light  machinegun on a single shot air rifle ?

Back_Roads did. Looks pretty cool too.

[Spacebus]

fug·ly
/ˈfəɡli/
adjectiveINFORMAL
very ugly or unattractive.

Yeah, who puts a stock of an FN light  machinegun on a single shot air rifle ?

Back_Roads did. Looks pretty cool too.

I think his is an AR style stock, not a stock from an FN machine gun, which looks really weird connected to a 362. The AR stock looks much more at home.

[Keepingitsimple]

fug·ly
/ˈfəɡli/
adjectiveINFORMAL
very ugly or unattractive.

Yeah, who puts a stock of an FN light  machinegun on a single shot air rifle ?

Might not be the FN light machinegun you're thinking about?
https://fnherstal.com/en/news/the-new-fn-evolys-ultralight-machine-gun-for-the-first-time-at-dsei/

Might just be my old tired eyes; but, the stock used for the FN is not the stock used for the 362 mod.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/294896859995

[Spacebus]

fug·ly
/ˈfəɡli/
adjectiveINFORMAL
very ugly or unattractive.

Yeah, who puts a stock of an FN light  machinegun on a single shot air rifle ?

Might not be the FN light machinegun you're thinking about?
https://fnherstal.com/en/news/the-new-fn-evolys-ultralight-machine-gun-for-the-first-time-at-dsei/

Might just be my old tired eyes; but, the stock used for the FN is not the stock used for the 362 mod.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/294896859995

You would pick the most atypical FN machine gun.

This is the FN we are talking about: https://fnamerica.com/products/machine-guns/fn-m249-saw/

It's known as the Squad Automatic Weapon in the Army and the most commonly found FN machine gun you will find. In fact when I googled "FN Machine Gun" that's the first picture that showed up. Also, I'm sure you will notice that the stock looks just like the one on your Ebay link... So yeah, it has an FN machine gun stock on a pumper.

[jsk68]

The looks of that butt stock just doesn't fit that gun imo, I bet he'd sell more if he used a more common style.

maybe something more like this? it's only $20....
https://www.opticsplanet.com/aero-precision-m4-sliding-stock.html

[bantam5s]

Yes it's clearly modeled after the stock for the FN Minimi,AKA M249 " S.A.W " in American service.

[Blowpipe Sam]

It looks like the aftermarket SAW butt stock that Entrrprise Arms was selling for The FAL a few years back.  Cheaper than Dirt had them and CAI.

[Keepingitsimple]

Yeah, who puts a stock of an FN light  machinegun on a single shot air rifle ?

Yes it's clearly modeled after the stock for the FN Minimi,AKA M249 " S.A.W " in American service.

You're sure? It's the 'FN light  machinegun' ? 'The FN Minimi,AKA M249 " S.A.W " in American service'?
I'm just not seeing what you're seeing. Sure, the 2 two stocks are similar. But the stock on the 362 is longer .



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I don't like the stock on Grimes steroided 362 either. I do like the concept of a steroided 362 though, don't you? Did you watch the vids I posted? Pretty informative, I thought.

Looks like there's a small improvement in velocity just from using a 24 inch barrel.
24 inch barrel puts the 362 into spring piston territory power wise. Would you agree that is a fair statement?

[Keepingitsimple]

I just pre-ordered the .177 Disco SE barrel and another slip on 1/2-20 adapter. I wasn't able to get the fellow Phil recommended on the phone; but, while the lady I talked to said it might be as long as 2 weeks before the barrel is shipped to me that it will be worth the wait. Apparently, there is an increase in demand for those barrels.

In the meantime, I'll be testing the .22 Disco SE barrel.

[Spooner]

I saw the three versions he had listed on his site. The thing I noticed is that he uses the plastic breach or the short steel breach on them? Some are probably ok with this but for the price point... the long steel breach would have made this more attractive. The higher FPS can be achieved much cheaper if that is what one is looking for. The "AR" style stock on this gun while using the original pump handle just doesn't appeal to me, but that is just me. 

[Keepingitsimple]

I saw the three versions he had listed on his site. The thing I noticed is that he uses the plastic breach or the short steel breach on them? Some are probably ok with this but for the price point... the long steel breach would have made this more attractive. The higher FPS can be achieved much cheaper if that is what one is looking for. The "AR" style stock on this gun while using the original pump handle just doesn't appeal to me, but that is just me. 

Grimes uses the OEM stock for the .177 version; but again as you noticed, he uses the plastic breech instead of the steel breech.

Grimes is pretty easy to talk to on the phone or in emails. Might not be a bad idea to see how much he'd take for a stock 362 to be modded with the same parts he's using for his steroided version.

[Psipumper]

I saw the three versions he had listed on his site. The thing I noticed is that he uses the plastic breach or the short steel breach on them? Some are probably ok with this but for the price point... the long steel breach would have made this more attractive. The higher FPS can be achieved much cheaper if that is what one is looking for. The "AR" style stock on this gun while using the original pump handle just doesn't appeal to me, but that is just me. 

Grimes uses the OEM stock for the .177 version; but again as you noticed, he uses the plastic breech instead of the steel breech.

Grimes is pretty easy to talk to on the phone or in emails. Might not be a bad idea to see how much he'd take for a stock 362 to be modded with the same parts he's using for his steroided version.

I don’t see any chrony numbers. I wouldn’t call it a “Steroid “ on cardboard layers. It would need to improve to 18 fpe.

[tennx]

I just pre-ordered the .177 Disco SE barrel and another slip on 1/2-20 adapter. I wasn't able to get the fellow Phil recommended on the phone; but, while the lady I talked to said it might be as long as 2 weeks before the barrel is shipped to me that it will be worth the wait. Apparently, there is an increase in demand for those barrels.

In the meantime, I'll be testing the .22 Disco SE barrel.

Whose adapter (1/2x20) did u buy…thanks

[Keepingitsimple]

I don’t see any chrony numbers. I wouldn’t call it a “Steroid “ on cardboard layers. It would need to improve to 18 fpe.

I would call it a steroid based on the 32 layers of cardboard the .177 penetrated versus the 20+/- layers of cardboard the OEM .22 penetrated and it is to my understanding the fps/fpe of the .22 OEM 362 with the 24 inch barrel at 12 pumps can be as high as 760 fps with 14.3 gr.

There's your 18 fpe right there.