which gun is the quitest stoeger x20s or a nitro trail with barrel shroude

[fgwhite]

i am curious which of these 2 guns would be the quitest for hunting i have herd that on the stoeger with the spring you hear the action and spring more and then i herd that the nitro trail with gas piston is very quiet also

[yote300wsm]

The Trail NP by far. The shot cycle is so fast compared to a spring. I have a fully shrouded B25 and it doesn't compare to my Trail NP as far as being quiet.

[Lambchops]

I beg to differ. Please read my review on the Stoeger X20 S that I just wrote today. It's in the airgun review gate.

[fgwhite]

i was wondering i never shot neather just wonted to hear from some that have shot and seen both thanks guys for the replies i read lambs post i really liked it

[Lambchops]

i was wondering i never shot neather just wonted to hear from some that have shot and seen both thanks guys for the replies i read lambs post i really liked it

Thanks for reading it. I truely believe the Stoeger X20 S is the quietest springer out there, next being the Remington NPSS.

[fgwhite]

it was a great write up makes me wont to order a stoeger right now guys on the nitro piston guns. Does the shroud make any different in the sound like a trail with shroud vs a crossman nitro venom with out shroud of them to guns is there any different in how quiet it is

[Lambchops]

it was a great write up makes me wont to order a stoeger right now guys on the nitro piston guns. Does the shroud make any different in the sound like a trail with shroud vs a crossman nitro venom with out shroud of them to guns is there any different in how quiet it is

Yes, there are big differnces in terms of sound between shrouded and un shrouded air rifles. For instance, a Stoeger X20 S or Remington NPSS will be much quieter than a Crosman Nitro Venom.

[fgwhite]

 thanks man i wish they still offered the venom with a shroud they had one in a phantom stock with the nitro piston and a barrel shroud i think it was called venom i am not shure i seen a write up on here of one. Now i see the crosman venom series has just a muzzle break i think the one with composit stock is called a venom dusk i was just curious what would be the most quiet gun i say as far as a springer i say the x20s would be and then i say in the nitro piston the ones with the shroud would be the quietest so from what i seen a x20s with a gas ram would haft to be the most quiet out there i have no idea just going from stuff i read and the replys

[Lambchops]

thanks man i wish they still offered the venom with a shroud they had one in a phantom stock with the nitro piston and a barrel shroud i think it was called venom i am not shure i seen a write up on here of one. Now i see the crosman venom series has just a muzzle break i think the one with composit stock is called a venom dusk i was just curious what would be the most quiet gun i say as far as a springer i say the x20s would be and then i say in the nitro piston the ones with the shroud would be the quietest so from what i seen a x20s with a gas ram would haft to be the most quiet out there i have no idea just going from stuff i read and the replys

Yes, I remember seeing them too. Don't know what happened to em' though.

[yote300wsm]

I don't know where you live, but the NP will stay much more consistent in colder weather than a springer.

[Lambchops]

I don't know where you live, but the NP will stay much more consistent in colder weather than a springer.

What complications do springers have in winter?

[yote300wsm]

Heavy tar lubes get slow and sticky in cold weather there-by slowing the whole shot cycle down. Nitro pistons are powered by "inert" gas which is unaffected by temp.

[fgwhite]

yes i read that on here some thing a bout when it gets under 30 degrese some thing hapens to the spring but i am just a green horn but this is cool geting info i wounder if any one yet has took a x20s and put a nitro piston in one yet i seen where guy on here has did some x20 from all the info i read looks like to me the x20s with a nitro piston would be the cats meyaw

[Lambchops]

Heavy tar lubes get slow and sticky in cold weather there-by slowing the whole shot cycle down. Nitro pistons are powered by "inert" gas which is unaffected by temp.

Nitro Pistons air rifles come lubed from the factory just like springers. Not to mention, most people open up their Nitro guns and lube them themselves. I do see your point though.

Looks like someone with a chrony should do a little experiment this Winter.

[fgwhite]

matt does your trail have the shroud on it i going to buy eather a stoger x20s or a nitro trail or a venom if i get stoeger might have it changed to gas ram if i buy a venom i going to have a shroude put on it if i buy a trail i just going to shot the heck out of it lol  i may just buy all 3 that way i have a spare this air gun stuff is very easy to get in to i like it so far

[Lambchops]

matt does your trail have the shroud on it i going to buy eather a stoger x20s or a nitro trail or a venom if i get stoeger might have it changed to gas ram if i buy a venom i going to have a shroude put on it if i buy a trail i just going to shot the heck out of it lol  i may just buy all 3 that way i have a spare this air gun stuff is very easy to get in to i like it so far

I've had my eyes on a Nitro Venom for a while... $149 @ Wally World with a nice scope is a heck of a deal!

[yote300wsm]

This is my Trail NP. I put a Rem Summit stock on it. And yes it is fully shrouded.

[fgwhite]

that is a great looking gun we got a aw on the way my buddie does i going to shoot it if i like it i going to buy me one and might buy a stoeger also have a back up i hurd them summit stocks would fit a trail or a phantom or maby even a venom i hurd all the guns where the same as far as changing stocks i mean the benjamin and the crosman and Remington except the npss Remington  even a quest and optimus would fit i would love to know if stoeger stock would fit on a trail or crosman i hurd they was made buy bam in china a copy off a b 19

[mlrs_27m]

I had the NPSS .22 and currently have a X20S. The X20S is way more quiet the the NPSS was. Granted, the NPSS was morepowerfull, but not by much. All you hear is the piston hitting home with the X20S. I did a lube tune on both guns, and the Stoeger wins.

[Lambchops]

I had the NPSS .22 and currently have a X20S. The X20S is way more quiet the the NPSS was. Granted, the NPSS was morepowerfull, but not by much. All you hear is the piston hitting home with the X20S. I did a lube tune on both guns, and the Stoeger wins.

That's what I think too. Anyways, don't NPSS' average around 750 with CPHP's? Basically the same as the Stoeger.