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Wayne52 · « **Reply #360 on:** February 13, 2022, 07:13:29 PM »

I should have put a big rag behind it, it hit and old computer cover and flattened out pretty good by that time.

Insanity · « **Reply #361 on:** February 13, 2022, 07:15:41 PM »

Killed that soup can deader than dead.

brewbear · « **Reply #362 on:** February 13, 2022, 07:16:44 PM »

Quote from: Insanity on February 13, 2022, 07:15:41 PM

Killed that soup can deader than dead.

And it made soup of the innards too!

EdinGa · « **Reply #363 on:** February 13, 2022, 08:18:07 PM »

Nothing like some good ole can damage. I need to try it with a 27 grain Hunter. Hmmm.. So c a r n a g e is a forbidden word?

Back_Roads · « **Reply #364 on:** February 14, 2022, 08:48:09 AM »

I think someone did call the 362 the Crosman Can Opener

avator · « **Reply #365 on:** February 17, 2022, 07:52:00 AM »

#805 now has an 18" .177 stubby barrel and my flip up peep setup on it.
It also has the Baker brass trigger adjustment screw in the place of the front barrel band screw and doubles as a front sight. It's the same size and thread as the stock screw. I put .177 bolt orings on it to make it look a bit better than a raw screw sticking up.
The rear peep flips down under spring tension to clear the way for the scope to mount.

avator · « **Reply #366 on:** February 20, 2022, 09:53:31 AM »

I received 3 of the TKO Prototype Trigger V4.1 from Mike.
I randomly pulled one out of the bag to use in #805.
I had previously smoothed and lubed all the contact points in the trigger group.
I also had previously put a slight bend on the lawyer spring as others have done.
The only other different thing I did as opposed to others is, I used the trigger return spring that came with the Baker brass trigger. It's much lighter than the stock spring.
I did nothing to the TKO trigger. I pulled it out of the bag and dropped it in.
Let me just say...
If the other 2 triggers in that bag are exactly the same as this one then I'll be replacing the Baker trigger in #782 with one.

In my case... there is such a short first stage that I hardly even know it's there. The hammer release is so crisp and light. IMO, it's perfect.
I've read others suggest changes on the angle and/or length of the trigger blade but I don't find and issue with either. I don't even find the need for added adjustment screws. I can't imagine what might be done with V4.2 to improve what I have here. I have no idea what Mike plans to sell the final revision for but it will be money well spent.
If I might suggest anything at all it would be to copy the Baker trigger spring and sell it as a kit.
Great job Mike..... thanks

avator · « **Reply #367 on:** February 20, 2022, 10:03:15 AM »

In my experience, one of the main things required for accuracy is the trigger.
If the trigger distracts my concentration from my aim then results are less than desired.
A long pull, gritty, spongy, non predictable trigger is a no go for me.
I dropped this trigger in and I did concentrate on it for the first 2 shots because it was something new and I wanted to feel the difference.
On shot number 3 I never even thought about the trigger. It was like I already knew exactly what to expect and it responded.
So for me... the trigger improvement on this gun is done.

Firewalker · « **Reply #368 on:** February 20, 2022, 10:12:01 AM »

Quote from: avator on February 20, 2022, 10:03:15 AM

In my experience, one of the main things required for accuracy is the trigger.
If the trigger distracts my concentration from my aim then results are less than desired.
A long pull, gritty, spongy, non predictable trigger is a no go for me.
I dropped this trigger in and I did concentrate on it for the first 2 shots because it was something new and I wanted to feel the difference.
On shot number 3 I never even thought about the trigger. It was like I already knew exactly what to expect and it responded.
So for me... the trigger improvement on this gun is done.

I too was able to get stellar results with this trigger but I did have a small clearance issue with the frame.

avator · « **Reply #369 on:** February 20, 2022, 10:23:21 AM »

Quote from: Firewalker on February 20, 2022, 10:12:01 AM

Quote from: avator on February 20, 2022, 10:03:15 AM
In my experience, one of the main things required for accuracy is the trigger.
If the trigger distracts my concentration from my aim then results are less than desired.
A long pull, gritty, spongy, non predictable trigger is a no go for me.
I dropped this trigger in and I did concentrate on it for the first 2 shots because it was something new and I wanted to feel the difference.
On shot number 3 I never even thought about the trigger. It was like I already knew exactly what to expect and it responded.
So for me... the trigger improvement on this gun is done.

I too was able to get stellar results with this trigger but I did have a small clearance issue with the frame.

Please, feel free to explain that.

Wayne52 · « **Reply #370 on:** February 20, 2022, 10:28:17 AM »

I honestly thing that all my trigger needed was the smoothing of of the friction points with a fine hone stone, I actually found that little honestone digging in the dirt with my metal detector years back, never bothered using it for much until I started using it on these airguns, it's just too small for even sharpening a pocket knife.

avator · « **Reply #371 on:** February 20, 2022, 10:35:49 AM »

Wayne... a softer return spring makes a World of difference.
The angle of Mike's V4.1 trigger blade eliminates the need for a stop adjustment screw.

Firewalker · « **Reply #372 on:** February 20, 2022, 10:48:38 AM »

Quote from: avator on February 20, 2022, 10:23:21 AM

Quote from: Firewalker on February 20, 2022, 10:12:01 AM
Quote from: avator on February 20, 2022, 10:03:15 AM
In my experience, one of the main things required for accuracy is the trigger.
If the trigger distracts my concentration from my aim then results are less than desired.
A long pull, gritty, spongy, non predictable trigger is a no go for me.
I dropped this trigger in and I did concentrate on it for the first 2 shots because it was something new and I wanted to feel the difference.
On shot number 3 I never even thought about the trigger. It was like I already knew exactly what to expect and it responded.
So for me... the trigger improvement on this gun is done.

I too was able to get stellar results with this trigger but I did have a small clearance issue with the frame.
Please, feel free to explain that.

Which part? The text I highlighted in red or the clearance issue?

avator · « **Reply #373 on:** February 20, 2022, 10:54:43 AM »

The clearance issue.

Firewalker · « **Reply #374 on:** February 20, 2022, 12:19:21 PM »

Mike sent an instruction sheet with the likely places to be trimmed, I had one such place that has the yellow arrow denoting the bump that had to be shaved down some to clear the frame.

avator · « **Reply #375 on:** February 20, 2022, 12:53:53 PM »

Quote from: Firewalker on February 20, 2022, 12:19:21 PM

Mike sent an instruction sheet with the likely places to be trimmed, I had one such place that has the yellow arrow denoting the bump that had to be shaved down some to clear the frame.

Hmmmm.... I didn't experience the issue. maybe they varied slightly from print to print. I've only tried one of the 3.
Hang on, I'll go put one in #782....

avator · « **Reply #376 on:** February 20, 2022, 01:27:41 PM »

Let me see if I can explain without pics... camera is in the house and I'm old and lazy.... lol

Specifically regarding the nub clearance on the front of the trigger....
It's a bit tedious because you have to compress the return spring to get the trigger to go in with the nub below the frame. Be careful.... if not for my roller magnet I would be shopping for a new spring... lol
Once you get the trigger in like that it virtually eliminates the need for the top Baker adjustment screw. It sets the trigger in the perfect position.
Basically, I have a very light 1/8" first stage pull to a crisp break. Like I said... I wouldn't change a thing on my V4.1.... Mind you, I have done all the typical polishing and lubing of the contact points in the trigger group. I also put a slight over bend on the lawyer spring.
I do have a SS trigger shoe from previous 'lego' projects and I may give it a try but I really don't feel the need.

avator · « **Reply #377 on:** February 20, 2022, 02:02:51 PM »

HA HA HA .... I'm an idiot !!!

The good news is.... the TKO V4.1 trigger works exactly the same in Betty Lou's #782.

However, it was way, way down on power and pellets were flying everywhere....
Well ya big dummy... you didn't swap it to the .177 barrel yet and .177 pellets don't do so good in a .22.... lol

Firewalker · « **Reply #378 on:** February 20, 2022, 02:05:06 PM »

Quote from: avator on February 20, 2022, 02:02:51 PM

However, it was way, way down on power and pellets were flying everywhere....
Well ya big dummy... you didn't swap it to the .177 barrel yet and .177 pellets don't do so good in a .22.... lol

I hide my mistakes and never speak of them.

avator · « **Reply #379 on:** February 20, 2022, 02:06:13 PM »

Bet ya can't guess what I'll be doing next.... lol
Yep, putting the custom 21" .177 barrel on #782....

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