New to me Crosman 150

[brewbear]

Among my less inspired ideas, yesterday I got my booster shot. I drove my wife for her doctor's appointment and I figured why not? I am hurting today and have a headache that will kill a horse.
 One must persevere, I put on my big boy pants and started on the Crosman 150. I took me a while but I got it done. I must say, there was a lot of crud and dried up Pellgun oil? I managed to clean 99% of it but the parts inside the valve are still caked up and will not fall out. I will more than likely buy a new valve if I can find it, the screw holding the front of the trigger assembly and the valve was cross threaded- I tried it before I put it back. I managed four shots and now I'll let it sit.
Wish me luck!
I wish you all a Merry Christmas,
Cheers,
Ted

[brewbear]

Useful link fixing a Ted Williams.
https://www.airgunforum.ca/forums/topic35089.html

[brewbear]

Are there any other Crosman pistols/rifles using the same valve as the 150?

[Wayne52]

I think the Crosman 180 does but don't know for sure.

[brewbear]

A question (or two) for the experienced owners of the 150. Is it necessary to remove the metal ring between the valve and the hammer? I just completed the first reseal on my 150 and while removing this part (what a pain) i didn't understand why I had to remove it. I used the Baker Airguns kit, it includes the check valve stem (poppet?) and a new spring for the piercing pin.
Are there different valve bodies? Some with the removable filtering felt/mesh/washer/sleeve and others without?

[Rabbit\Squirrel Killer]

A question (or two) for the experienced owners of the 150. Is it necessary to remove the metal ring between the valve and the hammer? I just completed the first reseal on my 150 and while removing this part (what a pain) i didn't understand why I had to remove it. I used the Baker Airguns kit, it includes the check valve stem (poppet?) and a new spring for the piercing pin.
Are there different valve bodies? Some with the removable filtering felt/mesh/washer/sleeve and others without?

Removing the (small tube plug) allows pushing the valve out easier without just pushing on the valve stem. I use a wooden dowel with a hole drilled in the center so the valve spring is not collapsed while pushing the valve out. It may not be anything to be concerned with but since it is easy to avoid I do.

I believe they all originally came with the filtering felt/mesh/washer/sleeve but I have bought ones that didn't have it when I opened them up and it hasn't been a "functional" problem for me yet and as long as dirt is kept out of the tube it should be fine.

[brewbear]

Yet another question: is the Ted Williams barrel permanently affixed to the valve tube?

[Rabbit\Squirrel Killer]

Yet another question: is the Ted Williams barrel permanently affixed to the valve tube?

No, the rear sight screw and breech screw attach it I believe. I don't have a Ted Williams model but can't see how/why it would be.

[brewbear]

Yet another question: is the Ted Williams barrel permanently affixed to the valve tube?

No, the rear sight screw and breech screw attach it I believe. I don't have a Ted Williams model but can't see how/why it would be.

I just had a DUHHHH!! moment. I forgot the breech screw.
Thank you

[oldair]

brewbear, a couple things on your questions above:
1. As Rabbit\Squirrel Killer says, removing the solid ring between valve & hammer makes for easier valve removal.  Taking that ring out is not difficult but first you need to push the valve forward enough (using a 1/4" or smaller rod) to get the end of its stem past the barrel fastening hole, then a punch can knock out the knurled pin no problem.  Cleaning the tube is also easier with it removed.
2. The Ted Williams barrel is separate, fastened the same as all 150's.
3. The screen was added in May 1959 per factory service manual page 12-B.1
4. The 150 valve 'piercing body' is the only one with the threaded hole for the grip frame screw - 180, 400 & 160 don't have this.

Don R.

[brewbear]

Thank you Dan and Don. I'm getting there.... slowly but surely. Don, thank you for the info on the 180 valve, I was about to order one.

[brewbear]

Update on my first reseal job. I checked it today, it's been sitting with a cartridge since yesterday. No leaks! It fired just fine.

[Rabbit\Squirrel Killer]

brewbear, a couple things on your questions above:
1. As Rabbit\Squirrel Killer says, removing the solid ring between valve & hammer makes for easier valve removal.  Taking that ring out is not difficult but first you need to push the valve forward enough (using a 1/4" or smaller rod) to get the end of its stem past the barrel fastening hole, then a punch can knock out the knurled pin no problem.  Cleaning the tube is also easier with it removed.
2. The Ted Williams barrel is separate, fastened the same as all 150's.
3. The screen was added in May 1959 per factory service manual page 12-B.1
4. The 150 valve 'piercing body' is the only one with the threaded hole for the grip frame screw - 180, 400 & 160 don't have this.

Don R.

Thanks for filling in the black spaces of my memories. I just know what I have encountered and remember. It's been a while since I have torn down one of my 180 series or one of my 150 series. I do know I had at least one 150 valve that was very stuck in the tube, but once it let go it was easy to get out.

[brewbear]

This is getting pretty bad folks! I caught the 150 fever!!!
 To recapitulate, I bought my first Crosman 150 on December 15th followed by a Ted Williams variant on the 19th. Another Crosman 150 joined the flock on the 20th (should arrive on the 28th) and finally (for now) a second Ted Williams bought and payed for but will not ship until Jan. 2nd since JG Airguns is closed for the holidays.
 Since all the afore mentioned are all the one piece breech and barrel variety, I now need to look for the other varietal.

[Rabbit\Squirrel Killer]

This is getting pretty bad folks! I caught the 150 fever!!!
 To recapitulate, I bought my first Crosman 150 on December 15th followed by a Ted Williams variant on the 19th. Another Crosman 150 joined the flock on the 20th (should arrive on the 28th) and finally (for now) a second Ted Williams bought and payed for but will not ship until Jan. 2nd since JG Airguns is closed for the holidays.
 Since all the afore mentioned are all the one piece breech and barrel variety, I now need to look for the other varietal.

I see you are doing your part of supply and demand to drive the prices up. 

With your quick pace you should stay ahead of the increase. 

[brewbear]

I see you are doing your part of supply and demand to drive the prices up. 

With your quick pace you should stay ahead of the increase. 

I'd like to think of it as helping the small business owners

[Rabbit\Squirrel Killer]

I see you are doing your part of supply and demand to drive the prices up. 

With your quick pace you should stay ahead of the increase. 

I'd like to think of it as helping the small business owners

It helps me since I have 14 of the 150 series that I paid way less for, or at least it would if I were to sell any , but I have no plans to do that . LOL 

[brewbear]

It helps me since I have 14 of the 150 series that I paid way less for, or at least it would if I were to sell any , but I have no plans to do that . LOL

I can't blame you for that, the feel naturally comfortable in hand and even though they're not powerhouse guns they are a whole lot of fun. Now, if there was an LDC for them....

[Rabbit\Squirrel Killer]

It helps me since I have 14 of the 150 series that I paid way less for, or at least it would if I were to sell any , but I have no plans to do that . LOL

I can't blame you for that, the feel naturally comfortable in hand and even though they're not powerhouse guns they are a whole lot of fun. Now, if there was an LDC for them....

I live 5 miles out of town on 5 acres with a neighbor that shoots firearms so the noise of the 150 does not bother me or them.

[brewbear]

I can't blame you for that, the feel naturally comfortable in hand and even though they're not powerhouse guns they are a whole lot of fun. Now, if there was an LDC for them....
I live 5 miles out of town on 5 acres with a neighbor that shoots firearms so the noise of the 150 does not bother me or them.

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I live on 0.5 acre lot in one of the very few horse property areas outside city limits and I can manage a 100 yard range (more or less) from the back door to the back fence. The only problem are the new people in the area, they are city refugees, that jump when someone uses a pneumatic hammer. These are the same people happy to enjoy the "country lining" but complain about people riding their horses on the side streets and post it on "Next door" app. Our reply was for them to go back to the concrete jungle.
I can shoot the 150 on first click without problems but on full power it is kinda loud-ish. Diana Chaser with the provided LDC is whisper quiet.