Crosman Steel Breech, benefits and sight options?

[Rick67]

Vernon Austin makes the best furniture.

Have a couple of his laminates, but he also does walnuts.

Fit and finish will leave you in awe, honestly 

[lefteyeshot]

I had a 1377 years ago then realized I hate pumping. I had a shoulder stock, the barrel mounts and pistol scope and fake ivory pistol grips for it. (those did look good) Sold it all to a buddy cheap. A couple of months later he had another $250 in it.

Lol, it's easy to do 

While browsing, I just found an older photo of a 1377 pistol I really like. Wood furniture, 12" barrel, 760 front sight, 2289 barrel band, metal breech and LPA rear sight. Very basic, but the grips and pump handle make it very nice. Over time that's what this may turn into, if I can find someone who makes wood grips and pump handle. I don't need the longer barrel, but 12" may add just enough to exceed 500 fps @ 8 pumps with the 10.5's I'm shooting without being unwieldy. Could even get a ported muzzle brake/sight... Lol, this is how it starts, isn't it? 

Wood shoulder stock would be nice. I really like the ivory pistol grips on black look. (just thought an ivory shoulder stock would be cool) I'm really a springer rifle guy but if I got an air pistol the new 2240 would be nice. I am drawn to that Tokarev TT co2 pistol for some reason if they were in stock. Only air pistols I have are the Russian break barrel, 57 something I think, shoots good. And a Browning 800 break barrel, that don't shoot good at all.

Had a couple of those Chinese break barrel springers, S1 I think. I could zero them at 20 yards to hit somewhere on a 12"x8" sheet of paper. I could watch the pellet spiral from one side of the yard to the other on the way to the target but it hit it more times than not.

[Hoosier Daddy]

Yep... The rabbit hole is slippery!

[Spooner]

hey Rick... who was that other guy you have mentioned a few times?

[Rick67]

Steve Corcoran.

He makes my 17xx/22xx forearms to match my Vernon Austin grips They have the same source of laminates, you know, so they match 

Vernon Austin only does grips and 13xx forearms, but I do have a couple of special projects from him.

[ER00z]

Rick, Does Vernon Austin have a online store or other ways to order online? I managed to find a Yahoo email scrolling through the threads, but just trying to get an idea of options/prices and hate to pester while not making an immediate purchase.

[ER00z]

Ok, one quick question...

When you order a steel breech "kit", do you just get the steel breech or steel breech, bolt, bolt handle, end cap, screws and Allen wrenches?

I just received my package containing the steel breech, and instructions. But the other stuff was not included, just wanting to make sure I got the correct thing. The vendor listed this as a "Kit", and before I contact them just wanted to make sure the mistake wasn't on my end.

[Rick67]

Rick, Does Vernon Austin have a online store or other ways to order online? I managed to find a Yahoo email scrolling through the threads, but just trying to get an idea of options/prices and hate to pester while not making an immediate purchase.

It’s the email addy , E sir.

He does not have a site, unfortunately.

Ambi grips is at $60 as well as the 13xx forearm.

Lefty or righty grips is $5 more.

The fit is heavenly, I tell you 

[Rick67]

Ok, one quick question...

When you order a steel breech "kit", do you just get the steel breech or steel breech, bolt, bolt handle, end cap, screws and Allen wrenches?

I just received my package containing the steel breech, and instructions. But the other stuff was not included, just wanting to make sure I got the correct thing. The vendor listed this as a "Kit", and before I contact them just wanted to make sure the mistake wasn't on my end.

If you buy them from Crosman or PA.

Some vendors, other than the 2, give you the whole shebang while most don’t 

[Robert 5mm]

the steel breech, bolt, bolt handle, end cap, screws and Allen wrenches

Mine came with all the items listed - but direct from Crosman

[ER00z]

I ordered from PA, I sent them a question with better photos of contents and order form, via email through the help "bot" box. I know it's the weekend, so I'll give it to Monday before I call.

Ok, one quick question...

When you order a steel breech "kit", do you just get the steel breech or steel breech, bolt, bolt handle, end cap, screws and Allen wrenches?

I just received my package containing the steel breech, and instructions. But the other stuff was not included, just wanting to make sure I got the correct thing. The vendor listed this as a "Kit", and before I contact them just wanted to make sure the mistake wasn't on my end.

If you buy them from Crosman or PA.

Some vendors, other than the 2, give you the whole shebang while most don’t 

Just to clarify, PA and Crosman generally give the whole Shebang?

[Rick67]

Yes, they do 

[Spooner]

Steve Corcoran.

He makes my 17xx/22xx forearms to match my Vernon Austin grips They have the same source of laminates, you know, so they match 

Vernon Austin only does grips and 13xx forearms, but I do have a couple of special projects from him.

was this the guy that had the website with the carbine stock and forearm that was to die for? i thought i had saved the link but couldnt find it.

[Rick67]

scstocksandgrips.com

[ER00z]

Rick67, Thanks for posting about the grips/stocks/furniture.

I could go broke upgrading these Crosman's, I have to quit looking

PA got back to me hours ago, they're making things right, I just missed the email. They responded much quicker than I expected, honestly thought I wouldn't here anything until Monday morning-afternoon. Awesome company!

[Spooner]

scstocksandgrips.com

thats the one... thanks! 

[Hoosier Daddy]

I thought Steve called it quits a while back?

Great to know I was wrong!

[Spooner]

I thought Steve called it quits a while back?

Great to know I was wrong!

not sure? i contacted him and he replied stating that he doesnt make the 13xx stocks anymore. he said he couldnt maintain a consistent fit for them. shame too... very nice work with those.

[ER00z]

This evening or early tomorrow I'll finally have the 1377 together 
Everyone has been taking turns being under the weather, my baby girl (1.5 y.o.) and I are the last to get it, so most project progress has been slowed.

Slightly off topic, but I dragged out "My son's" (Lol, we both enjoy it  ) shorty 760, which has a 11.5"-ish barrel. Over the chrony, the 1377 performs much better. So I grabbed an unmodified 760 (both are the newest variant) and it performed only  slightly better than the other chopped 760.
As far as I can tell, the biggest downfall of the current 760 is the bolt blow-by (the bolt not sealing chamber). Can the 760 be taken down and (more importantly) reassembled as easily as the 13XX guns? I only ask because the 2100 and siblings are difficult for me to reassemble. I want to try and seal things up better, but don't need to if too difficult.

The 760 and 13XX seem similar, but the 760 just lacks...something. I believe that "something" will be filled in with the release if the 362, if and/or when it's released. I'm very curious as to the build of the 362, it would be very nice if they use the Legacy 1000 pump piston (solid aluminum), 13XX valve and a Maxi style  trigger group. This would lend itself to being very user friendly...

Anyways, photos to come soon

[ER00z]

It's all together 

I had some leakage around the transfer port at first, losing 60+ fps on average with the steel breech. Luckily I got things sorted, passing the tissue test and regained original velocity. Now just have to sight in later. I want to give a big thanks to everyone who helped out, so Thank You. This pistol feels much better now, can't wait to sight in and get shooting. If this gun sees any changes it will be grips/pump handle upgrade and a solid pivot pin. Other than that it's perfect for me.