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Greg_E · « **Reply #60 on:** July 18, 2021, 11:43:10 PM »

#0 wood screw might also be an option, drill and attach while the pellet is still in the mold and it should just push the extra out of the fill hole.

Madd Hatter · « **Reply #61 on:** July 18, 2021, 11:46:59 PM »

Quote from: EdinGa on July 18, 2021, 10:55:21 PM

I'm not happy with mine at all. I wanted the 34 grain, but settled for this one. Should have known better. I've got quite a few NOE molds and I've never had one undersize before.

I ordered the 34 grain mold but Al sent me the 27 grain mold by mistake. I figured going with a light pellet I would allow me to shoot my Sumatra at a low setting thus giving me more shots before I had to fill it up again. The 27 grain hunter pellets skirt was just to small to work in the magazine. If I knew it would have to small of a skirt I would have insisted on the mold I ordered.

brewbear · « **Reply #62 on:** July 18, 2021, 11:47:52 PM »

Quote from: Nvreloader on July 18, 2021, 11:42:05 PM

Eddie

Have you shot and recovered an undamaged pellet and measured the diameters for the head and skirt,
with the same lead you are casting with?

I don't under stand this PC of pellets/slugs/bullets, can you build up the thickness enough to get a good fitting, so you can measure the dimensions etc.

IMHO,
I suspect that you also have a slightly larger bore diameter along with the smaller side of skirt diameters etc
which may be leading up to your accuracy problems.

Don

Don, that may very well be the case here but in my case I measured the cast pellets head and skirt and they were undersized, more in the .20 cal class rather than .22. I can understand one barrel being slightly larger but in my case I tried the pellets in four different guns and the pellets just fell out of the barrel.

Wayne52 · « **Reply #63 on:** July 19, 2021, 05:21:58 AM »

I'm glad that I purchase my 250-27-RF from the very first run that NOE did because they drop just like they're supposed to and shoot very well out of all the 25 cals that I have.

EdinGa · « **Reply #64 on:** July 19, 2021, 08:04:57 AM »

Quote from: Madd Hatter on July 18, 2021, 11:46:59 PM

Quote from: EdinGa on July 18, 2021, 10:55:21 PM
I'm not happy with mine at all. I wanted the 34 grain, but settled for this one. Should have known better. I've got quite a few NOE molds and I've never had one undersize before.
I ordered the 34 grain mold but Al sent me the 27 grain mold by mistake. I figured going with a light pellet I would allow me to shoot my Sumatra at a low setting thus giving me more shots before I had to fill it up again. The 27 grain hunter pellets skirt was just to small to work in the magazine. If I knew it would have to small of a skirt I would have insisted on the mold I ordered.

Me too. Ordered the 34 and ended up with the 27 almost 8 months later.

Greg_E · « **Reply #65 on:** July 19, 2021, 11:17:14 AM »

Now you guys have me thinking, should I even bother casting anything with my 250-27 or just measure it and send it back? Sounds like maybe there was a change and that change results in the skirts being too small. I'll measure tonight and see, but I'd guess the skirts should be at least .255 and the head anywhere .250 or less.

EdinGa · « **Reply #66 on:** July 19, 2021, 11:26:50 AM »

The diagram on the website shows .257 for the skirts. I'm heating my pot up now to try pressure pouring with a ladle see if that makes a difference. I doubt it will because I've been pressure pouring with my pot. Wayne has great results with it though, so I might as well try.

Madd Hatter · « **Reply #67 on:** July 19, 2021, 12:46:58 PM »

Quote from: EdinGa on July 19, 2021, 08:04:57 AM

Quote from: Madd Hatter on July 18, 2021, 11:46:59 PM
Quote from: EdinGa on July 18, 2021, 10:55:21 PM
I'm not happy with mine at all. I wanted the 34 grain, but settled for this one. Should have known better. I've got quite a few NOE molds and I've never had one undersize before.
I ordered the 34 grain mold but Al sent me the 27 grain mold by mistake. I figured going with a light pellet I would allow me to shoot my Sumatra at a low setting thus giving me more shots before I had to fill it up again. The 27 grain hunter pellets skirt was just to small to work in the magazine. If I knew it would have to small of a skirt I would have insisted on the mold I ordered.

Me too. Ordered the 34 and ended up with the 27 almost 8 months later.

Mine ended up being around a month.

I'm not real happy about the skirts being under sized. Al needs to know he has a problem with the.25 hunter mold.

EdinGa · « **Reply #68 on:** July 19, 2021, 01:56:41 PM »

I've never had a problem with NOE before this year. Every mold I've bought from him has been great until this .25 hunter fiasco.

EdinGa · « **Reply #69 on:** July 19, 2021, 03:44:21 PM »

Well, I pressure poured a batch with the ladle, picked out the fattest skirts and powder coated them. Here's the group at 30 yards next to a group with my Diana Bandit pistol at 20 yards. Both were shot with cast pellets. I'm still not impressed with this hunter mold. It's too much work for mediocre results.

Wayne52 · « **Reply #70 on:** July 19, 2021, 04:04:17 PM »

This was last August 2020 right after I got my Avenger sighted in with them. 50 yards

EdinGa · « **Reply #71 on:** July 19, 2021, 05:44:00 PM »

Here's my 50 yard results. NOE on the left and AA 25.4s on the right.

EdinGa · « **Reply #72 on:** July 19, 2021, 07:16:38 PM »

I tried them in the Bandit because it seems to like a smaller diameter. Found out pretty quickly that it won't stabilize them. They were corkscrewing like crazy.

Greg_E · « **Reply #73 on:** July 19, 2021, 08:43:09 PM »

So... Are these good enough for full auto in a Blitz? Might be that mine gets sent to someone that can just spray lead and accuracy in this mode isn't stellar anyway.

Cold I'm getting around .257 on my aluminum mold, tough to measure because of the pin shape. I'll have to cast a few and see what they do.

EdinGa · « **Reply #74 on:** July 19, 2021, 09:29:02 PM »

Quote from: Greg_E on July 19, 2021, 08:43:09 PM

So... Are these good enough for full auto in a Blitz? Might be that mine gets sent to someone that can just spray lead and accuracy in this mode isn't stellar anyway.

Cold I'm getting around .257 on my aluminum mold, tough to measure because of the pin shape. I'll have to cast a few and see what they do.

I haven't attempted to measure my mold, but my skirts aren't close to .257. I picked the biggest ones to powder coat and still ended up small.

I'm extremely disappointed in this mold considering the results Wayne is getting. I've tried every casting trick I know.

Wayne52 · « **Reply #75 on:** July 19, 2021, 10:17:39 PM »

Eddie I think they call the cutter for making the mold a cherry, they need to get them right is the way that I look at it. Like I said mine is from the first batch they ran for both the "Hunters" and also the Hunter Magnums. Both seem to do really good. I might try the hunter magnums in my AEA Semi Auto because I haven't tried them yet. This morning I was shooting 249-39-RF with very decent accuracy for a semi auto. I'll try the Magnum hunters in it next to see how they do from it. Those weigh about 2 grains less than those slugs so hopefully the poi is really close.

EdinGa · « **Reply #76 on:** July 19, 2021, 10:29:38 PM »

Wayne,

This whole ordeal has been extremely frustrating. I know they're busy and I've been a happy customer for years, but there seems to be more going on here. I've been dealing with this for nearly 8 months and now I have 2 useless molds.

I'm going to see if I can get a buddy of mine to make a tapered pin I can mount in one of my sizing dies to spread the skirts out. I just don't know what else to do.

Greg_E · « **Reply #77 on:** July 19, 2021, 11:35:13 PM »

Could your friend turn a pin that could be used to polish out the skirts? Not sure how big it needs to go, but .260 is probably close for most airguns. Mine is aluminum and should polish out fast if need be, hoping it expands big enough.

I'll get this going on maybe Wednesday and if I get bigger pellets I'll have to send you some to try.

Greg_E · « **Reply #78 on:** July 19, 2021, 11:54:32 PM »

A ball bearing in the correct size would work as a spreader, glue it to a piece of small diameter tubing, or solder/braze/weld. I'd size a ball as smaller than the measured inside diameter and let it push the walls slightly down the cone.

EdinGa · « **Reply #79 on:** July 20, 2021, 09:41:58 AM »

I'll ask him. He's very creative and builds knives, so I'm sure he could come up with something. I was thinking of something simple to address the undersize skirts, but he might have some other ideas.

I know for a fact that my barrel likes .259-.260.

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