Author Topic: NOE moulds (Read 2246 times))

brewbear · « **on:** June 30, 2021, 10:00:18 PM »

I have been happily casting my .22 cal hunters for the last month or so but.... in spite of me carefully cleaning the molds a couple of times, I'm still getting a whisker or two on pellets every once in a while. What am I doing wrong? I pressure pour from a bottom pour melter.

Another question I have, is there a list of some sort that translates the NOE molds nomenclature to plain english (maybe something like NOE moulds translated for dummies)
And finally, is there a release schedule for the moulds?

Thank you

Back_Roads · « **Reply #1 on:** June 30, 2021, 10:12:57 PM »

Here is a Google list of You Tube vids with some helpful info.
https://www.google.com/search?q=casting+pellets+with+NOE+molds&rlz=1C1CHFX_enUS656US663&source=lnms&tbm=vid&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiw47iV2MDxAhUWOs0KHQzLDRkQ_AUoAnoECAEQBA&biw=1707&bih=781

EdinGa · « **Reply #2 on:** June 30, 2021, 10:23:48 PM »

Quote from: brewbear on June 30, 2021, 10:00:18 PM

I have been happily casting my .22 cal hunters for the last month or so but.... in spite of me carefully cleaning the molds a couple of times, I'm still getting a whisker or two on pellets every once in a while. What am I doing wrong? I pressure pour from a bottom pour melter.

Another question I have, is there a list of some sort that translates the NOE molds nomenclature to plain english (maybe something like NOE moulds translated for dummies)
And finally, is there a release schedule for the moulds?

Thank you

I have 2 Lee 10lb pots. I've found that if I pressure pour with more than half a pot of lead I get fins. The weight of the lead creates enough pressure to squeeze lead into the vent lines.

brewbear · « **Reply #3 on:** June 30, 2021, 10:57:12 PM »

Thank you gents.
Ed, that's the melting pot I have too! I guess I got greedy and just wanted to cast and cast so I kept it 3/4 full. I'll give it a try with less lead in it.
Now. If I could only get that wadcutter in .22....

EdinGa · « **Reply #4 on:** June 30, 2021, 11:00:32 PM »

I love my .25 wadcutter mold. It's really accurate if you keep them slow enough. Around 600 works great.

35 shooter · « **Reply #5 on:** June 30, 2021, 11:15:05 PM »

I could’nt get my Noe 20 gr. mold to bottom pressure pour without fins and bad fill out to start with no matter what I did.
I had to resort to pressure pouring with a ladle.

After pouring a thousand or so pellets with the ladle method, I tried bottom pressure pour again.
Immediately I had great results.... very few fins and about 5% visual culls.
Maybe my brass mold just needed to break in a bit? Don’t know, but it works great with bottom pressure pouring now.
Like you I had used my mold a couple of months before the dramatic improvement occurred.

Lol, i’ve been casting for well over 40 years for rifle and pistol, but this was my first experience pouring pellets..... maybe I needed a break in period instead of the mold

?

EdinGa · « **Reply #6 on:** June 30, 2021, 11:36:20 PM »

Quote from: 35 shooter on June 30, 2021, 11:15:05 PM

I could’nt get my Noe 20 gr. mold to bottom pressure pour without fins and bad fill out to start with no matter what I did.
I had to resort to pressure pouring with a ladle.

After pouring a thousand or so pellets with the ladle method, I tried bottom pressure pour again.
Immediately I had great results.... very few fins and about 5% visual culls.
Maybe my brass mold just needed to break in a bit? Don’t know, but it works great with bottom pressure pouring now.
Like you I had used my mold a couple of months before the dramatic improvement occurred.

Lol, i’ve been casting for well over 40 years for rifle and pistol, but this was my first experience pouring pellets..... maybe I needed a break in period instead of the mold ?

I've cast a few hundred with my brass .25 wadcutter mold. It does seem to be casting better the more I use it. I'm seeing very few culls now.

brewbear · « **Reply #7 on:** June 30, 2021, 11:46:59 PM »

I keep checking NOE website daily hoping I'll see the wadcutters available. I think brass moulds will be next for me, in .22 and possibly. 25 since I got this bee in my bonnet for a .25 PCP....

Insanity · « **Reply #8 on:** July 01, 2021, 12:49:01 AM »

First 3 digits are diameter in thousandths next 2 digits are weight in grains rest is mold type like RF RG etc.

brewbear · « **Reply #9 on:** July 01, 2021, 02:44:47 AM »

Quote from: Insanity on July 01, 2021, 12:49:01 AM

First 3 digits are diameter in thousandths next 2 digits are weight in grains rest is mold type like RF RG etc.

Thank you ,sir. Now that makes more sense to me even though I must admit a simple classification by calibers would've been grand. I guess in a way they are sorted/classified by calibers but the caliber is expressed in thousands which to me (lab rat here, we loves metric) is a bit befuddling. Oh, well, live and learn.

Wayne52 · « **Reply #10 on:** July 01, 2021, 03:46:33 AM »

I get whiskers using a hooded ladle if I use tin in my mix or melted down storebought (even JSB, H&N etc.) pellets. When I'm using pure 99% lead I never get whiskers. I do now have a heat control pot but haven't really tried it out yet. I'm going to have to try casting using heat control for my lead I think that I would cut down on oxide considerably, it's time for this old dog to start learning some new tricks I guess.

Loren · « **Reply #11 on:** July 01, 2021, 08:32:06 AM »

Try doing just a gravity feed from your bottom pour pot. Adjust the lead flow for a smooth flow out of the pot. If you are not getting good fill out adjust the flow volume up or down. Most likely down. These small pellet cavities do not take long to fill and the air in the cavity needs a little time to escape. Hit the cavity with too much lead flow and the air gets trapped.

Back_Roads · « **Reply #12 on:** July 01, 2021, 08:42:23 AM »

I just caught this on the UTube last night.

brewbear · « **Reply #13 on:** July 08, 2021, 04:37:59 PM »

Followed your gents' advice, pot less than half full, used pure lead only, controlled pour flow rate (the best I can). I am happy to report, my pellets have a nice, close shave...
i.e. no more whiskers.

Now, is there a NOE mould for .22 caliber slugs?

EdinGa · « **Reply #14 on:** July 08, 2021, 05:02:24 PM »

There are several, but good luck getting your hands on one. I have personal experience with the 217-30-FN-BJ5 and it's accurate and hard hitting in my Gamo Urban.

https://noebulletmolds.com/site/product-category/224/

brewbear · « **Reply #15 on:** July 08, 2021, 05:22:01 PM »

Quote from: EdinGa on July 08, 2021, 05:02:24 PM

There are several, but good luck getting your hands on one. I have personal experience with the 217-30-FN-BJ5 and it's accurate and hard hitting in my Gamo Urban.

https://noebulletmolds.com/site/product-category/224/

Thank you Ed,
I don't have any experience with them so this question shouldn't surprise you, do I also need a top punch? His website is mighty thin on information of any kind. I guess "if you have to ask...."

Insanity · « **Reply #16 on:** July 08, 2021, 05:25:15 PM »

You only need it if you plan on sizing.

brewbear · « **Reply #17 on:** July 08, 2021, 05:54:16 PM »

Quote from: Insanity on July 08, 2021, 05:25:15 PM

You only need it if you plan on sizing.

As in the cast is a bit too chunky and I need to "slim" it down to fit in the barrel? I see NSA has several .22 slugs in .216, .217 and .218 and I figured they are designed to accommodate the variance in the different manufactures' bore diameters. I will get their sampler packs whenever they become available and see what my toys like, if they like slugs at all.

Insanity · « **Reply #18 on:** July 08, 2021, 06:23:18 PM »

Exactly it is to size down to what your gun likes.

Greg_E · « **Reply #19 on:** July 08, 2021, 07:40:53 PM »

Isn't the top punch for seating a bullet in a cartridge without deforming things like round front or hollow point?

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