Author Topic: Condor SS .25 With Hand Pump (Read 970 times))

PasadenaMike · « **on:** May 30, 2021, 04:33:52 PM »

I was skeptical to try hand pumping my Condor couple days ago. I thought it would be a chore but since I know my sweet spot is from 2500-1800 I figured I’ll try since everyone was sleeping at 6am and I was already up. Well, it wasn’t that bad. Pumping only took 150 ish strokes which is quite reasonable. I have a compressor and tank but I do a lot of hand pumping inside the house because it’s quiet compared to running the compressor and I always like to not waste my tank air just in case an outing comes up so hand pumping is always practiced. I have tried pumping from 1500-3000 but that is pointless for this gun. Took about 300 pumps and lots of cool down breaks. Plus I save wear and tear on my expensive fill equipment hand pumping. Anyway this forum
Is my only outlet For airguns so I post random things like this that’s on my mind. hope everyone is doing well.

HunterWhite · « **Reply #1 on:** May 30, 2021, 04:53:30 PM »

Mike, thanks for the encouragement. I have a pump that I've never even tried out because I like to use dry filtered air from the dive shop.
I just may give it a try.

Hunter

PasadenaMike · « **Reply #2 on:** May 30, 2021, 05:15:37 PM »

Quote from: HunterWhite on May 30, 2021, 04:53:30 PM

Mike, thanks for the encouragement. I have a pump that I've never even tried out because I like to use dry filtered air from the dive shop.
I just may give it a try.

Hunter

I say try it and save the tank
Air since it takes time to get to the dive shop. Yeah I just pump 50 strokes then let the air out to get the moisture out then I continue pumping another 50. Install an inline moisture trap from Air Venturi works good. Try it and see, and if it’s too much of a hassle to pump just use your cylinder.

Wayne52 · « **Reply #3 on:** May 30, 2021, 06:07:51 PM »

2500psi is easy pumping too, there's a lot of difference when you get to 3600psi.

PasadenaMike · « **Reply #4 on:** May 30, 2021, 06:51:09 PM »

Quote from: Wayne52 on May 30, 2021, 06:07:51 PM

2500psi is easy pumping too, there's a lot of difference when you get to 3600psi.

Totally agree. I stick to guns with max 3000 fill for the ease of filling. I had a Leshiy classic I pumped to 300
Bar by hand couple times all I can say is wow it was a work out and literally obliterated my hand pump. I just returned the Leahiy and now just stick to 3k fill max guns. My equipment thanks me for that:) actually I do have a 232 bar fill gun but it only needs 200 bar for best results.

ranchibi · « **Reply #5 on:** May 30, 2021, 06:55:34 PM »

Mike, that is smart air usage! I used to pump all my PCP’s but have a tank (am exactly 1 mile from Joe B’s for fill) and compressor now like you. Pumping is not too strenuous if done correctly and slowly and is good cardio! LOL!

PasadenaMike · « **Reply #6 on:** May 30, 2021, 07:09:05 PM »

Quote from: ranchibi on May 30, 2021, 06:55:34 PM

Mike, that is smart air usage! I used to pump all my PCP’s but have a tank (am exactly 1 mile from Joe B’s for fill) and compressor now like you. Pumping is not too strenuous if done correctly and slowly and is good cardio! LOL!

Yeah if I lived that close to Joe I don’t think I’d have a compressor like I do. I’m in Pasadena and my local dive shops don’t even charge over 3k. Anyway , it’s nice to be self reliant.

Mr.P · « **Reply #7 on:** May 30, 2021, 09:02:20 PM »

I also agree the exercise involved in hand filling a Condor is not too bad, i enjoyed it, but it was starting to get rough on my wrist joints or tendons or something in there... especially when i switched to a higher pressure bottle.

And agreed that refilling to 3000 is not that bad. Getting up to 4000 is much harder on me and the pumps.

ranchibi · « **Reply #8 on:** May 30, 2021, 09:05:27 PM »

Quote from: PasadenaMike on May 30, 2021, 07:09:05 PM

Quote from: ranchibi on May 30, 2021, 06:55:34 PM
Mike, that is smart air usage! I used to pump all my PCP’s but have a tank (am exactly 1 mile from Joe B’s for fill) and compressor now like you. Pumping is not too strenuous if done correctly and slowly and is good cardio! LOL!

Yeah if I lived that close to Joe I don’t think I’d have a compressor like I do. I’m in Pasadena and my local dive shops don’t even charge over 3k. Anyway , it’s nice to be self reliant.

I purchased one of those generic Spritech portable compressors mainly for back up...but yeah, having Joe so close is a wonderful blessing for sure, great guy too! And I still have 3 hand pumps! LOL!

Jacob_M · « **Reply #9 on:** May 30, 2021, 09:24:43 PM »

Kudos for hand pumping Mike! I hand pumped for years until I got my trail charger. The primary reason I still hand pump from time to time is due to its quietness as well. Keep on pumpin!

HunterWhite · « **Reply #10 on:** May 30, 2021, 09:49:37 PM »

Well 150 strokes took my Condor from 1500 to 2300; yeah I did break a sweat. I think I'll try for 2600. So, 60 more?

Hunter

HunterWhite · « **Reply #11 on:** May 30, 2021, 10:01:39 PM »

Yep, same as you, about 5 PSI per stroke on a 490cc bottle.

Hunter

PasadenaMike · « **Reply #12 on:** May 30, 2021, 11:10:23 PM »

Quote from: HunterWhite on May 30, 2021, 09:49:37 PM

Well 150 strokes took my Condor from 1500 to 2300; yeah I did break a sweat. I think I'll try for 2600. So, 60 more?

Hunter

Oops might have been off on my count slightly but it’s not too terrible considering I don’t plink with a cannon

PasadenaMike · « **Reply #13 on:** May 30, 2021, 11:18:58 PM »

Quote from: HunterWhite on May 30, 2021, 10:01:39 PM

Yep, same as you, about 5 PSI per stroke on a 490cc bottle.

Hunter

Never mind looks like we’re about right on with the count at 5 psi per stroke. I never passed math class

HunterWhite · « **Reply #14 on:** May 30, 2021, 11:49:11 PM »

I continued to 250 pump strokes and ended with 2700 PSI.
Yeah CARDIO is just what I need at 70 years of age. 🏋‍♂️🤪

PasadenaMike · « **Reply #15 on:** May 31, 2021, 12:06:39 AM »

Quote from: HunterWhite on May 30, 2021, 11:49:11 PM

I continued to 250 pump strokes and ended with 2700 PSI.
Yeah CARDIO is just what I need at 70 years of age. 🏋‍♂️🤪

now you can say you tried:)

ToRmEnToR · « **Reply #16 on:** May 31, 2021, 04:11:36 AM »

I used to hand pump for years. I have found that some hand pumps create more volume than others. The bundled pump that came with my hatsan flash pup beats my hill and fx stage 3. The fx is in a slight second.

Back_Roads · « **Reply #17 on:** May 31, 2021, 10:31:15 AM »

Back when I got into PCP, I bought a Sam Yang Recluse 500cc, then shortly after an Airforce Escape, 250 cc ? Hand pumped them both for a couple years, then the Bargain gate quickly added more PCPs to my heard. I have not touched a hand pump since getting my Shoe Box and also a Spark like compressor as my mobile backup.

I get my cardio while working or hunting

PasadenaMike · « **Reply #18 on:** May 31, 2021, 01:32:24 PM »

Quote from: ToRmEnToR on May 31, 2021, 04:11:36 AM

I used to hand pump for years. I have found that some hand pumps create more volume than others. The bundled pump that came with my hatsan flash pup beats my hill and fx stage 3. The fx is in a slight second.

It’s funny you mention that. I had a hill mk4 which was a total POS ended up returning it since it was sent in multiple times to AV for warranty repair. They were awesome enough to take it back and refund fully even after one year. I now have been using my G7 which works perfect. I have another g7 brand new in a box for backup just in case the zombies arrive again. With hand pumps it’s a hit or miss I think.

PasadenaMike · « **Reply #19 on:** June 01, 2021, 12:04:55 AM »

Quote from: Back_Roads on May 31, 2021, 10:31:15 AM

Back when I got into PCP, I bought a Sam Yang Recluse 500cc, then shortly after an Airforce Escape, 250 cc ? Hand pumped them both for a couple years, then the Bargain gate quickly added more PCPs to my heard. I have not touched a hand pump since getting my Shoe Box and also a Spark like compressor as my mobile backup.
I get my cardio while working or hunting

Hey fellow air gunner. I love reading how everybody does their air. At the end of the day there’s no right or wrong. It’s all
About what works for you. Thank you for sharing.

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Condor SS .25 With Hand Pump

Author Topic: Condor SS .25 With Hand Pump (Read 970 times))