Its the beauty of the global economy and an ever present language barrier; they don't know why we don't know what they know, and then we don't understand what it is they are trying to teach us when they send instruction written by somebody who has no clue how to use the translation software. Clear as mud. Good thing the pumps are better built than any of us ever thought possible.
Just information….can debate it, just what I’ve found.Two things kill pumps early: friction and heat build up. Can’t easily do much about the internal fit/finish (friction), but we can control heat by pumping slower/taking breaks.
Fat people have it easier than skinny people. At some point, can be locked arm body weight doing that last bit of pump travel. Not so much if you’re skinny.
Hmm I see it now the bicycle seat on top of a pump, and a chin up bar to get the air to draw in. I have heard some compressors have smelly air, this may also be an issue here
No direct offence to any one...personally on the skinny side, but pump filled for years. 5'11" 165lbs can certainly do it (although I've shrunk about 1/2 inch and the weight shifted around a bit). At least there is a "prize" at the end of pump filling.....not like running on a belt or sweating on a bike that goes no where.
I haven’t bought a pcp yet, but I have been doing a lot of lurking. At 5’6” 125#, I find this thread very discouraging. But I have seen shots of various apparatus created as pumping aids. I really want a new Marauder F&T with the Turkwalnut. But I won’t be able to buy a compressor too.
Quote from: Struckat on May 25, 2021, 11:35:46 PMI haven’t bought a pcp yet, but I have been doing a lot of lurking. At 5’6” 125#, I find this thread very discouraging. But I have seen shots of various apparatus created as pumping aids. I really want a new Marauder F&T with the Turkwalnut. But I won’t be able to buy a compressor too.I hear you, I'm old, my ticker is not great, so what does not kill me will hopefully improve me. Like the Mrs just said, go ahead, your insurance is all paid up. I will try the pump when my first PCP shows up in a few days. If its that bad, I'll go buy a compressor in a month or so, the Chinese ones are not too costly. I plan on one if I'm around long enough anyway, but first comes glass. Check the map, maybe others near you might have some ideas, or even help you out a bit with a fill up, then use the pump to keep it topped off; much less work I think.John
Mr. John, I have a Filipino friend who resembles you He is the bearded guy in the middle (I am the bald one ):OT: We had wild pigeon, wild boar meat, python, and other exotic finger foods in this photo
Quote from: Back_Roads on May 25, 2021, 08:52:06 PM Hmm I see it now the bicycle seat on top of a pump, and a chin up bar to get the air to draw in. I have heard some compressors have smelly air, this may also be an issue here YES! Pull up bar, what about the weight pull down systems I see at 3am on TV? If it were balanced to the weight of the user, it might just become an effortless process? Maybe check out the back episodes of The Red Green Show and see if any ideas are lurking there!I wonder, now where are those scientists I keep hearing about? They seems to know everything about anything these days (well except which bathrooms to use maybe). They should be able to design something combining all these idea and make a perpetual motion air pump.John
Quote from: Rick67 on May 26, 2021, 10:39:22 AMMr. John, I have a Filipino friend who resembles you He is the bearded guy in the middle (I am the bald one ):OT: We had wild pigeon, wild boar meat, python, and other exotic finger foods in this photo Nice, I feel sorry for your friend if he looks like me! I used to run with a few Filipino dudes, we were pretty tight for a while, but eventually they all went back home and we lost touch. They were all great fun and good shots (and their women sure could cook), so that was very good for me, we all loved guns and the out of doors action. I miss those days. Python in New Mexico? Or was that taken back home? I've seen some constrictors there, lots of rattlers too, the butter corn snake looks like a Golden Burmese but way smaller, I saw the butter corn variety even here in California. I usually won't eat a snake that does good things where I live, if they kill rats and gophers, they are my buddy.
<snip> --even a single tin of high end pellets is very expensive in the PI I might go home next year for a vacation
Quote from: Ribbonstone on May 25, 2021, 04:41:17 PMJust information….can debate it, just what I’ve found.Two things kill pumps early: friction and heat build up. Can’t easily do much about the internal fit/finish (friction), but we can control heat by pumping slower/taking breaks. Supposedly you're supposed to occasionally add silicon oil to the shaft, when the handle is all the way up. That then gets in to all the internals and prolongs life. Quote from: Ribbonstone on May 25, 2021, 04:41:17 PMFat people have it easier than skinny people. At some point, can be locked arm body weight doing that last bit of pump travel. Not so much if you’re skinny. I usually strap on a small backpack filled with books, before pumping. It helps a little, though I find most of the work is still done with my arms.Also, in case anyone doesn't know, it's supposedly best to pump with your lever / bolt in the cocked position. (For better air flow, I guess.) I'm not 100% sure that really matters, but why not just do it that way ..... It is sometimes necessary to cock the rifle/pistol before filling from empty... this is because of preload on the hammer spring which causes it to push on the poppet shaft holding the poppet open... once filled it is not nessasary because the pressure in the tank holds the poppet closed...
Quote from: Ribbonstone on May 25, 2021, 08:47:02 PMNo direct offence to any one...personally on the skinny side, but pump filled for years. 5'11" 165lbs can certainly do it (although I've shrunk about 1/2 inch and the weight shifted around a bit). At least there is a "prize" at the end of pump filling.....not like running on a belt or sweating on a bike that goes no where.I pumped a bottle gun once, and that was the 1st and the last time for me
It is sometimes necessary to cock the rifle/pistol before filling from empty... this is because of preload on the hammer spring which causes it to push on the poppet shaft holding the poppet open... once filled it is not nessasary because the pressure in the tank holds the poppet closed...[/i]
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