Toolfreaks Anonymous

[Hoosier Daddy]

So now that I know we are speaking wood planes not airplanes.
My Dad was a Carpenter by trade. When he passed away back in '82, my step-brother received all his wood tools.
 But I got my Grand-dad's.
I am sure it's close to 100 years old as I am 58.
 My Step-Dad has an awesome collection of antique wooden ones, he and Mom recently moved so I sent a request for a pic if he has them up on display yet.
 Anyhow... Here is Grand-Dad's

[bantam5s]

David,
 I bought my guys at work denim (blue jean) Shop Aprons just like the one Dad had, and then myself... Mom actually sewed the originals.
Let me see if I can find where I ordered them from when I get to work Monday.
 MUCH cooler than Leather and hold up VERY well.

I believe dickies has one for about $20.
But I'll look and see what HJE has in stock.

[45WLA]

Hoosier Daddy, you've got a Bailey smooth plane. Probably made by Stanley, still quite useful and repairable [if needed]. Google 'The Superior Works - Patrick's Blood and Gore' to find out more than you would ever want to know about Bailey and Stanley planes. May well be over 100 years old.
Good tools, well cared for, last.
 

[Hoosier Daddy]

Thanks Chuck!

You are correct, casting in the nose says "Bailey" and ahead of the handle says
PAT,D
MAR-25-02
AUG-19-02
APR-19-10

[lizzie]

On the old wood planes, I would LOVE to know what to buy (brand/ style) , and where to find, for a collector. My son works wood, takes it from the tree all the way to the finished product, and he loves the old planes, and things like that make great gifts, as far as I am concerned.

[Hoosier Daddy]

Mom said "How ironic, Jim is working on his display now!"
Here is the start, probably 1/2 of what he has.

[Buldawg76]

Well a few days late but finally got my fathers old wood plane out for some pics. It at least 65 years old since it is made in England and I was born there on an US air force base in 1965 which is 65 years ago while my father was stationed there, it may be slightly older as I am not sure now long my parents were in England during his service.

Its made by the Record company and is still in quite good shape despite being in a drawer in my garage for at least 30 years unused. I have used it to plane some doors back in the late 70s but that's about it. My father passed in 89 so it has been with me since then for sure.

BD

[bantam5s]

Looks like a nice block plane there, the same design as my Stanley handyman block planes.

I believe this is a lower cost design, but block planes do certainly tend to be a simpler and less precise than a bench plane so that may not necessarily be true as far as block planes go.

[Novagun]

That Record plane must have been in a good place. No rust and no sign of it having been cleaned up recently. Usually planes stored long term in a cardboard box get some rust or even pitting. Blade looks as if it needs attention.

[Back_Roads]

  I never knew that the square (Robertson) drive was invented around the same time as the Phillips drive screws. I also was unaware that they had a name other than square drive. 

Nor did I.
I have been calling them square bit screws since I discovered them. Lol

Now what IS frustrating is taking apart something that someone built using different types of screws on. Having to grab 2 or 3 different bits is a pita, but a few years ago, I put together a "tackle box" of driver bits to keep them all together, and I just grab that box when working on a project.

I find the multi screw head issue at work all the time, most times the heads are driven so deep that on has to test the bits blind to find what fits. I blame our suppliers for not having the screws we want in stock more often than not.

[Privateer]

On the different screws on any given job site?
When building stuff the crews don't give a darn about any future demo or work so just grab what is easy and fast for them.
I call that the Lazy Guy syndrome. And I see it all the time!
 

[Sqrl Klr]

I believe dickies has one for about $20.
But I'll look and see what HJE has in stock.

I stopped buying from dickies when they turned anti AR15. Academy and Gander have everything they do without any brow beating political gun virtue signaling lectures to go with it so no more reason for me to shop dickies. Just wanted to pass that on in case anyone here is unaware of them pulling that bs last year.

[bantam5s]

I believe dickies has one for about $20.
But I'll look and see what HJE has in stock.

I stopped buying from dickies when they turned anti AR15. Academy and Gander have everything they do without any brow beating political gun virtue signaling lectures to go with it so no more reason for me to shop dickies. Just wanted to pass that on in case anyone here is unaware of them pulling that bs last year.

I stopped buying their pants because the pockets are worthless,  but I wouldn't want to support a company who doesn't support my right to live.

HJE has an American made canvas shop apron for $17 , that's what I'm gonna buy.
HJE is one of my favorites places to deal with anyways.

[Buldawg76]

That Record plane must have been in a good place. No rust and no sign of it having been cleaned up recently. Usually planes stored long term in a cardboard box get some rust or even pitting. Blade looks as if it needs attention.

Yea it does need some TLC as it was put up without being cleaned up before put away. It has been a a drawer in one of my metal workbenches in the garage for at a minimum of 30 years or more. Yes the blade does have some slight surface rust on it that some steel wool and elbow grease will clean up nicely. I, will take it apart and clean and lube all metal on it so it will last another 65 plus years. No pitting noticeable on it at this time and the last time I used it it shaved the door edge off very easily and cleanly. Blade is tungsten steel.

BD

[Buldawg76]

I believe dickies has one for about $20.
But I'll look and see what HJE has in stock.

I stopped buying from dickies when they turned anti AR15. Academy and Gander have everything they do without any brow beating political gun virtue signaling lectures to go with it so no more reason for me to shop dickies. Just wanted to pass that on in case anyone here is unaware of them pulling that bs last year.

You can add Levis to the list of anti American cancel culture companies as well. Going to get to the point we will have no true patriot companies left to patronize in this country.

BD

[Novagun]

"Blade is tungsten steel."
I am not familiar with that steel. As far as I know all my plane blades, except the hand held power planes are high speed steel. They sharpen well and do a good job of making shavings.
The power plane blades I think are tungsten carbide. They shatter or chip out a piece if you hit a big nail. The blades on scrapers and router bits I think are tungsten carbide. You can tickle them up a bit with a diamond stone and get a bit more life out of them. Maybe more cleaning that sharpening but I can see a titch of wear from the stone.
We haven't talked about plug in drills. (240 volt) It is coming soon.

I am a wood worker more than a metal worker although I do a bit of simple metal fabrication. I have made three road trailers and they are all hanging together after many years of use. May be I am a better welder than I think I am. Yeah right mate.
 

[Sqrl Klr]

Grab tool is another one of my favorites. Used it to grab a lot of limbs that fell after a storm while driving the mower and tossing the limbs into the trailer to dump in the woods. Got 3 full trailer loads with it. I only have to get out of the mower to lift heavy limbs by hand but most I get with the grabber. 

[Buldawg76]

"Blade is tungsten steel."
I am not familiar with that steel. As far as I know all my plane blades, except the hand held power planes are high speed steel. They sharpen well and do a good job of making shavings.
The power plane blades I think are tungsten carbide. They shatter or chip out a piece if you hit a big nail. The blades on scrapers and router bits I think are tungsten carbide. You can tickle them up a bit with a diamond stone and get a bit more life out of them. Maybe more cleaning that sharpening but I can see a titch of wear from the stone.
We haven't talked about plug in drills. (240 volt) It is coming soon.

I am a wood worker more than a metal worker although I do a bit of simple metal fabrication. I have made three road trailers and they are all hanging together after many years of use. May be I am a better welder than I think I am. Yeah right mate.

I am not a metallurgist at all so not sure what tungsten steel is as compared to other types of steel but was just stating what is shown on the box that came with the plane and in the instruction pamphlet.. 

BD

[Firewalker]

Tungsten steel is just an old alloy that is brittle but holds a very nice edge. Modern tool steels like D2 and even HHS can be better candidates for cutting tools without having the inevitable chipping issue.

T1 tungsten steel has 18% W (tungsten) and really hasn't changed since 1910 when it was introduced.

T2 has 6% tungsten has 5% (Molybdenum) MO and has all but replaced the old tungsten steel.

"High-speed steels (HSS) are tool steels that consist of a combination of over 7 % Mo, W, and vanadium (V), with over 0.60% carbon."

[Buldawg76]

Tungsten steel is just an old alloy that is brittle but holds a very nice edge. Modern tool steels like D2 and even HHS can be better candidates for cutting tools without having the inevitable chipping issue.

T1 tungsten steel has 18% W (tungsten) and really hasn't changed since 1910 when it was introduced.

T2 has 6% tungsten has 5% (Molybdenum) MO and has all but replaced the old tungsten steel.

"High-speed steels (HSS) are tool steels that consist of a combination of over 7 % Mo, W, and vanadium (V), with over 0.60% carbon."

Thanks for the info, David.

BD