Huben K1 Initial thoughts...

[Rat Sniper (AKA: PaulT58)]

I have found the best slug for Huben 2020 to be VN 28.5gr.  Regulator set to about 165bar.  Power wheel adjusted to 1040fps. Good for 38 shots. Super accurate and devastating on game.

The NSA 36.2gr are not good in the 2020.  They changed the barrel specs.  Actually I don't think NSA even offers them anymore.

I did not see anything that mentioned the Huben on NSA's website, I had also e-mailed Nick to see what his recommendation was and he never mentioned anything about any special Huben slugs either.  I should have the rest of my samples next week and will do some testing.

Congrats on your Huben Paul. You lucked out that yours likes the 18 gr. I've tried mine on several different speeds and can't get it to group to suit me. But she loves the 25 grain redesigns at 920 fps.

Had a real windy day and shot a few groups but decided to stay at my zero of 28 yds because of the wind.

I shot two five shot groups with 4 different pups and they all held their own pretty good. Saved the Huben for last and it hung right in there with the rest of em. Was shooting 18 grain in the first three pups and of course the 25 RD's in the .22 Huben.

And shot a thumbnail size five shot group with the Huben at 46 yds on a rusty piece of metal.

Thanks Jimmy!  The redesigned do shoot better than the 18 grain, but I am happy with how both group.  I have some FX 25.34 grain pellets coming also, hopefully they will shoot just as well.  Yours if grouping very nicely!

[Tonycalves]

Nice groups across the board!

[Jzizzle]

If your sticking with pellets, the 34gr are very accurate at 980 fps withing 50 yards, not so much beyond that range though.  Again, the VN 28.5gr is my go to.  Haven't found anything more accurate and consistent yet, and I've tried alot.

[mrbulk]

Yeah my reg is set at 135 BAR now and Kelly was testing it in his shop at that setting before shipping it out - so at zero clicks the Crosman 14.3gr crawled out the barrel at 331 fps at first, then climbing to 624 as it reached the 10-click setting.

So it may be doable, although for consistency's sake I would indeed drop the reg down to maybe 1500 psi as you suggest and go up a click or three...and get several hundred shots per fill then, I would guess...

Sorry I could not edit my earlier post but the 14.3's went up to 624fps at 10 clicks w/reg set at 135 BAR.

John, what is the VN 28.5-grain slug you refer to?

Paul, there was indeed an NSA slug made especially for the Huben but I believe it is no longer offered as was mentioned.

[mrbulk]

I did not see anything that mentioned the Huben on NSA's website, I had also e-mailed Nick to see what his recommendation was and he never mentioned anything about any special Huben slugs either.  I should have the rest of my samples next week and will do some testing.

In fact Varmint Knockers makes one especially for the Huben, if this ebay link was not already posted somewhere else:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/22-CAL-223-HUBEN-K-1-SWAGE-SLUGS-28-5-GRAIN-100-COUNT-FROM-VARMINTKNOCKERS-/254369743033

[Rat Sniper (AKA: PaulT58)]

I did not see anything that mentioned the Huben on NSA's website, I had also e-mailed Nick to see what his recommendation was and he never mentioned anything about any special Huben slugs either.  I should have the rest of my samples next week and will do some testing.

In fact Varmint Knockers makes one especially for the Huben, if this ebay link was not already posted somewhere else:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/22-CAL-223-HUBEN-K-1-SWAGE-SLUGS-28-5-GRAIN-100-COUNT-FROM-VARMINTKNOCKERS-/254369743033

YE-OUCH! Varmint Knocker really think a lot of their slugs!  $15.00 plus shipping for 100 slugs? That's pricier than the FX Hybrids!  I think I'll wait till all my NSA slug samples arrive, hope there's one that works and go with those. 350 for $18.99 is a little more economical. The JSB .25.39 Knock-outs are $10.59 for 200 from Trenier Outdoors.  I have a tin of those coming as well.  If none of those work, I'll stick with the pellets.  Thankfully, the 18.13 grain JSB's are performing pretty decent.  I may back off the regulator a bit more and see if I can find a better balance shoot them.  At the rate this thing eats pellets, I can't afford to go too high end!   

[mrbulk]

Yup, expenseevo!

I am glad the FX 18.1s are doing good for me at this time, will have to put some JSB 18.13s through as well but only had a tin of those left yet had 5 tins of the FX 18.1s so I am only shooting those right now.

Actually I’m looking forward to receiving the 25.39 FX “Redesign” clones (same die as the JSB in same factory I am told, just that it’s the SAME die over and over vs various dies used for the JSBs).

[Tonycalves]

Has anyone tried .22 Eunjin's? In .25 my Mrod @ 65fpe got 3 touching at 75 yards more often then not. They're inexpensive comparatively.

[Rat Sniper (AKA: PaulT58)]

I tried some of the pointed Eujins, I don't recall the weight, I just had some in a small tube I used to use to carry pellets in the field.  They did not shoot well at all! 

[oldpro]

 The heavy monsters shoot well probably the best out of that gun. The H&N barracudas shoot well also. I did find however the gun did not like to shoot anything slow. Faster the better and nothing light.

[mrbulk]

The heavy monsters shoot well probably the best out of that gun. The H&N barracudas shoot well also. I did find however the gun did not like to shoot anything slow. Faster the better and nothing light.

Good to know was gonna try some 14.3s tomorrow but perhaps no sense

[cclfn]

Hey Paul congrats on the new gun those look like they would be so much fun to shoot.  I am not sure I understand the fixed mag though.  Can you index when you load so you can just shoot five at a time? 
Great video thanks for sharing.
Wes

[Jzizzle]

VN is short for Varmint Knockers.  The 28.5gr is the best hands down in the 2020 version Huben, and probably 2021 as I don't think the barrel has changed.

 For earlier model Hubens, NSA made a slug for that barrel at 36gr.  This slug performed poorly in the newer Huben barrels. 

As for pellets in 22cal, both JSB 25gr and 34gr are good contenders.  Haven't tested any lighter weights.

After initial testing, all my Huben eats is the VN 28.5gr.  Sure it's a lil pricier then other options but it hits the target each and every time packing a whallop.

[mrbulk]

VN is short for Varmint Knockers.  The 28.5gr is the best hands down in the 2020 version Huben, and probably 2021 as I don't think the barrel has changed.

 For earlier model Hubens, NSA made a slug for that barrel at 36gr.  This slug performed poorly in the newer Huben barrels. 

As for pellets in 22cal, both JSB 25gr and 34gr are good contenders.  Haven't tested any lighter weights.

After initial testing, all my Huben eats is the VN 28.5gr.  Sure it's a lil pricier then other options but it hits the target each and every time packing a whallop.

Thanks.

[Rallyshark]

So the newer Hubens are still shooting the .223 slugs best?  I haven't followed the different generations super closely, but I thought they had started putting barrels with "air gun sized" bores in the later guns? 

[LegionAir]

VN is short for Varmint Knockers.  The 28.5gr is the best hands down in the 2020 version Huben, and probably 2021 as I don't think the barrel has changed.

 For earlier model Hubens, NSA made a slug for that barrel at 36gr.  This slug performed poorly in the newer Huben barrels. 

As for pellets in 22cal, both JSB 25gr and 34gr are good contenders.  Haven't tested any lighter weights.

After initial testing, all my Huben eats is the VN 28.5gr.  Sure it's a lil pricier then other options but it hits the target each and every time packing a whallop.

Repeatable accuracy & packing a punch = priceless

[Rat Sniper (AKA: PaulT58)]

Hey Paul congrats on the new gun those look like they would be so much fun to shoot.  I am not sure I understand the fixed mag though.  Can you index when you load so you can just shoot five at a time? 
Great video thanks for sharing.
Wes

You can index the magazine, but it's tricky because you are pretty much guessing where the first pellet it.  It takes 19 rounds, so I probably ought to figure it out, it would be just a matter of shooting it till the first rounds fires, then next time just index it the same number of clicks as there were dry fired shots.

[randy_68]

Paul, congrats on your Huben. Fun guns for sure. I've owned a lot of good guns over the years and the Huben is my favorite gun I've ever owned. I've rebuilt and tuned several of them as we have about 10 or more in the local area. Some are picky with pellets but I have one that shoots just about anything I put in it.
  The best upgrade I've done is add a Huma reg. It is so much more consistent and at 110 bar I can shoot the Crosmans at 350 fps for barn shooting and JSB RD at 950 just by using the powerwheel..
Love the Huben

[Rat Sniper (AKA: PaulT58)]

Paul, congrats on your Huben. Fun guns for sure. I've owned a lot of good guns over the years and the Huben is my favorite gun I've ever owned. I've rebuilt and tuned several of them as we have about 10 or more in the local area. Some are picky with pellets but I have one that shoots just about anything I put in it.
  The best upgrade I've done is add a Huma reg. It is so much more consistent and at 110 bar I can shoot the Crosmans at 350 fps for barn shooting and JSB RD at 950 just by using the powerwheel..
Love the Huben

Randy, the one thing I have noticed is the inconsistency in velocity!  Shoot the new JSB Knock-outs, I'd get 3 consistent shots at around 970 fps, and then one at 909 fps, then it would be back at 970 fps for a couple more shots.  How difficult is the removal of the stock regulator and the installation of the Huma reg?

[oldpro]

Paul, congrats on your Huben. Fun guns for sure. I've owned a lot of good guns over the years and the Huben is my favorite gun I've ever owned. I've rebuilt and tuned several of them as we have about 10 or more in the local area. Some are picky with pellets but I have one that shoots just about anything I put in it.
  The best upgrade I've done is add a Huma reg. It is so much more consistent and at 110 bar I can shoot the Crosmans at 350 fps for barn shooting and JSB RD at 950 just by using the powerwheel..
Love the Huben

Randy, the one thing I have noticed is the inconsistency in velocity!  Shoot the new JSB Knock-outs, I'd get 3 consistent shots at around 970 fps, and then one at 909 fps, then it would be back at 970 fps for a couple more shots.  How difficult is the removal of the stock regulator and the installation of the Huma reg?

 Huma wont help that. You can drive up your reg pressure and then lower your power wheel or do what i did and make a huge plenum and put a bottle on it. The plenum is to small.