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Cslinger · « **Reply #40 on:** March 21, 2021, 09:27:42 PM »

See if your Mount is slipping backwards. Mine did, I assume I didn’t have the cross pin just right.

north country gal · « **Reply #41 on:** March 22, 2021, 12:29:00 PM »

Will do and more, if needed. I'd really like to get this Sport back to shooting the way I know it can shoot.

north country gal · « **Reply #42 on:** March 23, 2021, 05:31:14 PM »

Good news and bad news with the scoped Sport.

The good news is that I changed scopes to a Swift Premier 6-18x AO and the Sport is back to shooting decent groups at 30 yards. Shot 8 groups ranging from .38" to .68" with the average being right at .50". Gusty winds sweeping at an angle across the range, so I might be able to trim those groups a bit on a calmer day ... or maybe not. Regardless, I have no complaints about shooting half inch groups on a consistent basis.

The bad news is that it looks like the Sport's recoil ate one of my precious Nikon Prostaff EFRs. Going with a different scope cut group size in half. I may try the Nikon on a rifle with less recoil and see if it's still useable.

Not complaining, though. The main thing was getting the Sport back on track.

Oldgringo · « **Reply #43 on:** March 23, 2021, 05:56:09 PM »

Quote from: North Country Gal on March 23, 2021, 05:31:14 PM

Good news and bad news with the scoped Sport.

The good news is that I changed scopes to a Swift Premier 6-18x AO and the Sport is back to shooting decent groups at 30 yards. Shot 8 groups ranging from .38" to .68" with the average being right at .50". Gusty winds sweeping at an angle across the range, so I might be able to trim those groups a bit on a calmer day ... or maybe not. Regardless, I have no complaints about shooting half inch groups on a consistent basis.

The bad news is that it looks like the Sport's recoil ate one of my precious Nikon Prostaff EFRs. Going with a different scope cut group size in half. I may try the Nikon on a rifle with less recoil and see if it's still useable.

Not complaining, though. The main thing was getting the Sport back on track.

Hmmm? I've been shooting my Nikon EFR scoped Sport all afternoon and am not pleased with the results and am wondering whether it's me, the rifle and/or the scope? No further than I shoot, maybe I'd be happier shooting open sights, you reckon?

This gun will put 2 or 3 in almost the same hole then the next couple of pellets may be 1/2" either side of the one hole. I don't like that.

BTW, the barrel does loosen up. I've tightened mine once and today it's floppy again.

north country gal · « **Reply #44 on:** March 23, 2021, 06:01:58 PM »

The only sure way to know, Greg, is to change scopes and give it a try like I did. Last time I used the Sport with the Nikon, groups were really bad. Had a tough time getting under an inch. Back down to half inch or less with the Swift, today.

The Sport does make a good case for those who prefer shooting springers with iron sights to avoid ruining scopes.

Keen · « **Reply #45 on:** March 23, 2021, 06:22:16 PM »

Quote from: Oldgringo on March 23, 2021, 05:56:09 PM

Quote from: North Country Gal on March 23, 2021, 05:31:14 PM
Good news and bad news with the scoped Sport.

The good news is that I changed scopes to a Swift Premier 6-18x AO and the Sport is back to shooting decent groups at 30 yards. Shot 8 groups ranging from .38" to .68" with the average being right at .50". Gusty winds sweeping at an angle across the range, so I might be able to trim those groups a bit on a calmer day ... or maybe not. Regardless, I have no complaints about shooting half inch groups on a consistent basis.

The bad news is that it looks like the Sport's recoil ate one of my precious Nikon Prostaff EFRs. Going with a different scope cut group size in half. I may try the Nikon on a rifle with less recoil and see if it's still useable.

Not complaining, though. The main thing was getting the Sport back on track.

Hmmm? I've been shooting my Nikon EFR scoped Sport all afternoon and am not pleased with the results and am wondering whether it's me, the rifle and/or the scope? No further than I shoot, maybe I'd be happier shooting open sights, you reckon?

This gun will put 2 or 3 in almost the same hole then the next couple of pellets may be 1/2" either side of the one hole. I don't like that.

BTW, the barrel does loosen up. I've tightened mine once and today it's floppy again.

Not for nothing, and by way of encouragement......

We, and use the term only in regard to our presence on the German gate, have a history of shooting HWs, which are mostly known for being cooperative shooters with pretty good manners. There's little or nothing out there on the interweb, certainly not any airgun related site that I've travelled, regarding long term manners of untuned FWB Sports. The folks here at GTA who own an FWB Sport are really on the bleeding edge of reporting experiences with these guns in an untuned state. And even then only over a few months. I know I want my gun to be the best thing since sliced bread, and perhaps it will be someday, but for now we suffer the trials and tribulations of being early adopters.

Never Give Up. Never Surrender.

Love that movie.

Oldgringo · « **Reply #46 on:** March 23, 2021, 06:32:22 PM »

I really, really enjoy shooting my 25 and 30 yard spinner spoons with my peepsighted HW's and BEEMAN. Frustration I can get from TV news.

Oh well, "tomorrow's anther day". Who said that in what movie?

Oldgringo · « **Reply #47 on:** March 24, 2021, 03:04:42 PM »

It is tomorrow.

I ran 10 H&N 4.51 pellets through the sport a while ago and got a good 30 yard 1/2" group with the same Nikon EFR scope on her as yesterday. I've about concluded that I'm not as hold sensitive as the Sport is; ergo, I'll keep trying to do better....for awhile.

north country gal · « **Reply #48 on:** March 24, 2021, 04:34:53 PM »

Greg, after shooting so very many different springers at 30 yards, I've come to the conclusion that half inch for 5 shots is a very typical springer group at 30 yards when I'm on my game. Sure, now and then I can squeeze in a 3/8 inch group and, on rare occasions, even get a wall hanger around 1/3 inch. Always fun to chase those tiny groups with a springer, but no way will any of my springers keep up at 30 yards with our best PCPs, either for smallest group or consistency, group after group. I actually like that, however. Gives me something to try to match with the springers.

Oldgringo · « **Reply #49 on:** March 24, 2021, 11:32:09 PM »

Quote from: North Country Gal on March 24, 2021, 04:34:53 PM

Greg, after shooting so very many different springers at 30 yards, I've come to the conclusion that half inch for 5 shots is a very typical springer group at 30 yards when I'm on my game. Sure, now and then I can squeeze in a 3/8 inch group and, on rare occasions, even get a wall hanger around 1/3 inch. Always fun to chase those tiny groups with a springer, but no way will any of my springers keep up at 30 yards with our best PCPs, either for smallest group or consistency, group after group. I actually like that, however. Gives me something to try to match with the springers.

Wise counsel, thank you, Joanie.

I tried my Diana 34 today and had to be satisfied with a fat 1/2" group. Next, I contended myself shooting spinner spoons with my peepsighted HW30S at 25 and 30 yards. Do I really need an HW30S Deluxe?

Bayman · « **Reply #50 on:** March 24, 2021, 11:41:34 PM »

Greg, don't you already have 2 Hw30s and an R7? What's the attraction to the deluxe model? If you don't mind me asking.

Oldgringo · « **Reply #51 on:** March 25, 2021, 12:41:20 AM »

Quote from: Bayman on March 24, 2021, 11:41:34 PM

Greg, don't you already have 2 Hw30s and an R7? What's the attraction to the deluxe model? If you don't mind me asking.

I dunno', Ron. They are just so fun and easy to shoot in my backyard. Plus, the Deluxe is prettier than my plain Jane 30S'.

north country gal · « **Reply #52 on:** March 25, 2021, 12:03:03 PM »

Ha! Need is a funny word, Greg, as we all well know.

We have two HW30s and one of those is the laminate version. That's my favorite. Oh, you could twist my arm to get another laminate HW30 if AoA ever offers one, again. I'd jump on a laminate HW50 in a heartbeat.

Cslinger · « **Reply #53 on:** March 25, 2021, 12:32:19 PM »

What is this “NEED” you speak of?

I took the offramp from need MANY MANY MILES ago and I passed the little town of justification doing about 120 and here we are in happy crazy town but it’s a heck of a ride.

:p

Oldgringo · « **Reply #54 on:** March 26, 2021, 07:05:03 PM »

Well, more FWB Sport trial and tribulation.

I shot some 20 each of H&N 4.51 & 4.52 FTT's this afternoon. She'll put 3 of 5 within 3/8" of each other and the next two go off in space somewhere. She will hit my spinner spoons at 30 yards, however.

north country gal · « **Reply #55 on:** March 26, 2021, 08:40:12 PM »

Sounds very familiar.

I find that I must be absolutely religious about follow through with that Sport recoil. If I so much as blink, I blow the group. Not as easy to shoot as the HW95L, but with the Sport, you just KNOW the accuracy is there. Sure keeps me trying.

Oldgringo · « **Reply #56 on:** March 27, 2021, 10:36:04 AM »

Quote from: North Country Gal on March 26, 2021, 08:40:12 PM

Sounds very familiar. I find that I must be absolutely religious about follow through with that Sport recoil. If I so much as blink, I blow the group. Not as easy to shoot as the HW95L, but with the Sport, you just KNOW the accuracy is there. Sure keeps me trying.

I think that is what's called "hold sensitive" and yes; I'll keep trying to get that decent, five-shots in one hole group.

north country gal · « **Reply #57 on:** March 27, 2021, 01:10:14 PM »

I know FWB made a low fpe version of the Sport for the Euro market. That might have been a fun gun to get, just to see the difference in how our versions shoot.

Keen · « **Reply #58 on:** April 17, 2021, 09:00:30 PM »

I thought twice about resurrecting this thread, but a couple of recent comments by Oldgringo made me realise that some of us are still ....... having trials with this gun.

I did what turned out to be a fairly sloppy lube tune some weeks ago but hadn't really had chance to do any shooting afterwards. Today I managed to get out for an hour or so to shoot a few groups and was A) pleasantly surprised, and B) a bit nervous.

The pleasant surprise was shooting sub dime groups at 22 yds with FTTs and AA Diablos, both in 4.51, CPH heavies and CPHP 7.9s. So painting up the spring and cocking slot with a mix of moly and a Tune in a Tube simulacrum really reduced the twang and bang. To be honest, I was starting to thing that I'd never see results like this with this gun. As many have pointed out the new FWB Sport really is a challenging piece of kit. So that's the good news.

The not so good news is that before I ran these different pellets through the gun I did some "fun" shooting and Miss FWB dieseled like nobody's business and detonated a bunch. So much for my sloppy tuning! I guess at some point there'll be a strip and rebuild

As always I followed shooting the FWB by shooting the R9 for a side by side comparison.

The R9 still has the honours with sub 3/8 groups, but at least the FWB is gettin' there.

Man! This is some kind of gut checking, knee trembling experience!

As an aside, there's a VERY long thread on the Brit airgunbbs site about the R9. Fascinating stuff about the R9 and how difficult the sub 12 ft/lb version is for folks in the UK to get their heads around. I'm a Brit BTW so any derogatory comments I might indulge in are done under license.

http://www.airgunbbs.com/showthread.php?877254-Why-is-the-HW95-so-bouncy

north country gal · « **Reply #59 on:** April 17, 2021, 09:22:42 PM »

Ha! I think the Sport is intimidating enough to shoot even without the dieseling and detonating.

Seriously, that's good work with Sport. For sure, the R9/HW95 falls in the more normal range of springer shooting. I often shoot our 95L after shooting the Sport, just to return earthbound springer shooting.

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