FWB Sport trials

[north country gal]

Personally, I'd just shoot it some more come warmer weather to make sure that's the problem before messing with what might not be broken.

[Keen]

I'm of the same mind at the moment NCG, unless there's something I might be missing.

[Oldgringo]

After breaking and cocking my FWB barrel is suddenly swinging like a sailors d#@! on shore leave. There's absolutely no side to side movement, but I'm not sure if it might be wavering a bit on accuracy.

Should I take the action out of the action and tighten the pivot bolt, or leave it as it is until I can really see a difference in how it shoots?

The weather has been cold here, so between cold fingers, low temps and possibly sticky lubrication it's hard to tell what is really going on.

My barrel got real floppy too.  I went to O'Reillys and got #15 & 20 Torx drivers to tighten barrel pivot and stock screws as needed.

[tjk]

After breaking and cocking my FWB barrel is suddenly swinging like a sailors d#@! on shore leave. There's absolutely no side to side movement, but I'm not sure if it might be wavering a bit on accuracy.

Should I take the action out of the action and tighten the pivot bolt, or leave it as it is until I can really see a difference in how it shoots?

The weather has been cold here, so between cold fingers, low temps and possibly sticky lubrication it's hard to tell what is really going on.

Chris, my Sports’ barrel is the same way. Swings freely at the pivot axis with no side to side play/movement whatsoever. No noticeable change in  accuracy either. I did take mine out of the stock last weekend to check the slot for any metal shavings that might have worn off from the cocking slot during the breaking in period. Didnt see anything but a over greased spring 😉. While i had it out, i checked the pivot bolt and the jam bolt on the other side. Neither would budge with the detent (barrel cracked open) unlocked. Wasn't about to put any gorilla force on either bolt anyhow. Reassembled the action to the stock and she shoots straight and true. I am a firm believer in the “if it aint broke, dont fix it” mind set.

[Keen]

EXCELLENT!

tjk Thanks for the reassurance, and doing the work I don't need to.

Is there any obvious reason the pivot would loosen up that much? Given that OG has had the same issue it almost sounds like they were made to loosen up.

Oldgringo, Did you find that the pivot bolt needed tightening?

[Oldgringo]

EXCELLENT!

tjk Thanks for the reassurance, and doing the work I don't need to.

Is there any obvious reason the pivot would loosen up that much? Given that OG has had the same issue it almost sounds like they were made to loosen up.

Oldgringo, Did you find that the pivot bolt needed tightening?

Yes, the pivot bolt requires a Torx 15 driver and tightening them, reduces the free swing of tthe barrel.

[Cslinger]

How many rounds do you have through yours?  My hasn’t loosened at all beyond the stock screws of course.

[tjk]

I would say about 300 to 400 pellets. But i have been shooting a variety of diff pellets during the break in and havent kept track of how many.
I will say this though. I dont know what it is with the germans and the lack of lubricants to their spring guns, but it is almost a sure given that I am going to lube the pivot axis immediately after just a few shots. And the reason I think some folks do have pivot loosening issues is a direct reaction of these guns not being sufficiently lubricated in this area. If the mating surfaces are just lubed enough to slide with a rough feel, i can imagine the next link,...the main pivot bolt,.. giving in and turning a slight bit at a time. IMO, this is unacceptable build practice by the manufacturers. Be it FWB, HW, Diana, and etc.

[north country gal]

Good point. I bought my Sports from AoA and they sent a memo advising to lube the pivot axis and add a dab of grease to the locking bolt. Has definitely made the Sport easier to open and cock.

[Jason_Garvin]

Of the 4 sports I previously owned, all of the pivots were mainly dry.  I never had any of them exhibit the pivot bolt loosening.  However, I pulled them down fairly quickly after new.  I recommend pulling the barrel bearings, and greasing them under and over with something slick like Extreme Weapons Grease, not moly.  I used the same grease on the pivot bolt.  I can't recall if the aluminum breech block is sleeved or not.  But you wouldn't want accelerated wear in this area.  The i.d. cut threads on the pivot bolt and nut, degrease and install.  After proper lubing, you can get these pivots tensioned pretty good, and the bearings will still let the barrel drop smooth.

Jason

[DonC]

i used FWB white grease on all pivots. It is the same grease that came with my FWB 603 single stroke 10 meter rifle. Worked perfect. My Sport was tuned by Flying Dragons. It shoots near as good as any Hw30/R7. lOVE IT, NEVER SELL

[Keen]

What is Extreme Weapons Grease?

And why not moly?

[Keen]

Of the 4 sports I previously owned, all of the pivots were mainly dry.  I never had any of them exhibit the pivot bolt loosening.  However, I pulled them down fairly quickly after new.  I recommend pulling the barrel bearings, and greasing them under and over with something slick like Extreme Weapons Grease, not moly.  I used the same grease on the pivot bolt.  I can't recall if the aluminum breech block is sleeved or not.  But you wouldn't want accelerated wear in this area.  The i.d. cut threads on the pivot bolt and nut, degrease and install.  After proper lubing, you can get these pivots tensioned pretty good, and the bearings will still let the barrel drop smooth.

Jason

What is Extreme Weapons Grease?

And why not moly?

[north country gal]

Had one of those Sport trials, today. Had the itch to get out and shoot the scoped Sport to see what it would do off the bench at 30 yards, despite winds over 20 mph.

Just couldn't get those groups even down to half inch, though, and I know this rifle can do a third of an inch, because it's done exactly that. Oh, I was tempted to blame the wind or maybe the scope was loose or maybe I had angered the springer gods by shooting PCPs, last week or ...

In then end I just had to be honest and admit it was just not one of my best springer days. I do have those, every now and then.

As sometimes happens when I get frustrated shooting my springers, I gave in and headed back to the house and traded the Sport for one of my pet PCPs, you know, just to prove it was that nasty wind that was the problem.

Uh, nope. Three groups with the PCP, one spooky small group after another.

So .... just me having an off springer shooting day. Will try again, soon. Can't let those PCPs beat up on my beloved springers.

[Cslinger]

I’ve been going through a bit of a case of the air gun “yips” as well lately. I have just been off my game even with the HW30’s which are basically shooting with cheat mode enabled.

[Oldgringo]

OTOH, I went out for a brief shoot yesterday with my FWB Sport and shot 10 H&N FTT in every size at 30 yards off the bench.

Firstly, the 4.50 and 4.52 were okay.  Lastly, the second five of the 4.51's went into one small <3/8" hole.  I quit while I was ahead.

[north country gal]

Ah, the joys and headaches of shooting a springer! Never ends, but that's the attraction for me.

[tjk]

Ah, the joys and headaches of shooting a springer! Never ends, but that's the attraction for me.

This is why we all have a variety of springers to choose from. My Sport was lazer accurate today, and the 34k is showing signs of improvement. I pulled out the 77k and cant group/plink worth a &^^& for some reason. Next comes out the 35 and it is if the stars and planets are all in perfect  alignment.  Springers,...you either love them or hate them!!!! Lols.

[Cslinger]

Springers,...you either love them or hate them!!!! Lols.   

Yep, and this is why I love em.  The personality of each and every on.

[north country gal]

I did give the Sport another try, today, but this time hubby was with me and shooting the 95L in 20. He was easily outshooting me with the HW. Me, I was plagued with constant POI changes with the Sport and could not get get any kind of a group started.

After hubby was done shooting, I stayed and switched to his 95L to compare it with the Sport. Sure enough, I was shooting the 95L the way it's always shot, which is to say, nice and consistent. No wall hanging groups, but consistent half inch groups at 30 yards.

Have to conclude from all of this that I may have a scope or mount problem on the Sport. (Hope not, because the scope is one of my Nikon EFRs.) This gun has outshot the 95L in the past, so something is not right. No way should it be shooting so sloppy. Have a Hawke AirMax I'll try on the gun, next.