Anyone Try These 6-Petal Expanding Pellets?

[mrbulk]

I know they are expensive (and likely sold out everywhere) but curious if it does create the kind of wound channel they speak of:

https://hardairmagazine.com/news/details-new-umarex-havox-hunting-pellets/

[Insanity]

I thought I seen a thread where they decided to not make them.

[mrbulk]

Aww man, too bad. They certainly look deadly...

[archellas]

Aww man, too bad. They certainly look deadly...

Maybe THAT's the reason they decided not to make them?

[mrbulk]

At least it may make for more humane hunting.

[lefteyeshot]

Seems I saw some one making something like that by pressing a small phillips head screw driver into the hollow point.

[mrbulk]

Yeah I recall reading about that very recently, found this but it's for rimfire hollow pts not airgun pellets, although similar:

[null]

I remember seeing this a while ago...

I tried this today with both rimfire and CPHP and noted no difference. Both in .22 cal. I shot at all kinds of stuff that would allow me to catch the projectile. Not worth the effort.

Although, I did notice more fragmentation with the airgun... which was rather interesting.

[superchikn]

Knifemaker and Motorhead had a couple threads going on this type of mod to HP slugs.  Amazing results!

[mrbulk]

Yeah That's where I saw that! Thanks.

[Cableaddict]

Knifemaker and Motorhead had a couple threads going on this type of mod to HP slugs.  Amazing results!

Similar to the H&N Grizzly slugs.
Just remember that this kind of structure has a negative affect on BC.  (As Motorhead noted.)

So quite possibly good for short-range hunting and pesting, but not so much fo 100 yards & out.   
Must be tested with your own gun, of course, and only you can decide which trade-off is best.

Personally, I'm still working on it.        
My current thinking is that a more lethal wound is better than slightly better trajectory & wind resistance, so yeah, break out that phillips head screwdriver....

[kimoleto]

I´ve been traying to swage slugs with "petals", talon like using a cutter similar to a blank forming die. I´ve achieved several grades of success but as you mentioned accuracy suffers. The photos are .30 cal slugs 60 - 75 gr fired from a modified AF condor (+/- 800 fps) into clay, they expand well but I´m looking for fragmentation. Sorry for my english, comments are more than welcomed

[USAFANG6799]

I tried digging for more info on these and it does not seem that they are intending to actually produce or sell them from the limited things I could find (mostly press from right around ShotShow 2017).

Pretty interesting concept, though!

The reply I got back from Umarex was basically the same as yours, no intentions of selling them.

[kimoleto]

Some of my banana slug attempts

[JohnnyPDX]

Knifemaker and Motorhead had a couple threads going on this type of mod to HP slugs.  Amazing results!

Yup those guys have explored this extensively.

[JohnnyPDX]

As a shortcut start with a hollow point then desect it, good luck. It's difficult and really requires more than a phillips head screw driver.

[mrbulk]

As a shortcut start with a hollow point then desect it, good luck. It's difficult and really requires more than a phillips head screw driver.

A good accessory to make/sell would be a razor-edged Phillips-style "impressor" tool...

[JungleShooter]

I'd buy one!!

Matthias

[mrbulk]

I'd buy one!!

Matthias

Me too! Hey - how about taking a mini file to the four forward facing flanges of a standard Phillips screwdriver head?

[Chris USA]

As I recall from post(s) here,.... a hollow point and controlled cuts with razor blades,.... then re-close. I seem to recall someone making an impression of the nose in epoxy, or something,... and then using that cavity to force the now cut "petals" back to original profile.

Overall,.. I like the concept.