Cattleman Air guns.. seeking info ?

[steelblueeyedman]

Hello.. I was wondering if anybody has purchased and CATTLEMAN Air Guns or has any info about them that they would like to share? I have seen a few U Tube videos on a few of their guns. They look rather interesting and at a good price point.

[oldpro]

 reach out to KNIFE hes the man!

[RichH]

Hello.. I was wondering if anybody has purchased and CATTLEMAN Air Guns or has any info about them that they would like to share? I have seen a few U Tube videos on a few of their guns. They look rather interesting and at a good price point.

Have you seen the accuracy, or lack there of on youtube? One guy was getting like 6" groups at 25yds, with JSB's, YIKES

[KnifeMaker]

The barrel issue is being addressed now. If a customer rec's one of the bad bbls, a new replacement bbl. will  be shipped.
Knife

[Greg_E]

Have you seen the accuracy, or lack there of on youtube? One guy was getting like 6" groups at 25yds, with JSB's, YIKES

The supersonic speeds in .22 aren't helping things.

[null]

These seem interesting, but I don't like the fact they are single shot... Would've been awesome to have 10 shot mags.

[Efrobert]

These seem interesting, but I don't like the fact they are single shot... Would've been awesome to have 10 shot mags.

? They come with either a 10 shot or 8 shot mag. I haven’t seen the 6” groups either. I just bought one in .22. I’ll post a review when I get it.

[Racerman111]

10-shot mag for .22 ,  9-shot mag for .25 per all info on their website...

Really interesting rifle, would be nice to have in a 30 & 35 cal setup...

[RichH]

These seem interesting, but I don't like the fact they are single shot... Would've been awesome to have 10 shot mags.

? They come with either a 10 shot or 8 shot mag. I haven’t seen the 6” groups either. I just bought one in .22. I’ll post a review when I get it.

A T1 and T2 with JSB and H&N.....enjoy

[Rob M]

those groups are pretty bad.. id look into the AEA guns , similar price , available in semi auto , not as loud out of the box. And almost all are accurate out of the box.

[Greg_E]

Just a note about the above video, he gets tighter groups with his Blitz and several different pellets, not the shooter's fault.

M&B on Youtube is getting better groups with his T2, he put out a video yesterday showing this through the scope. I think there are just some problems that will hopefully be handled by warranty. Cattleman says they will cover any issues, I think they will even full refund for a certain period of time (not sure on the length of time), might want to contact them if you sort of like what you see and may want to buy one. There might still be a bunch of $100 off coupon codes out there.

If they had built a bullpup, I may have bought one from them, but they won't have something like that until maybe end of this year (2021). Would have been far easier to send stuff back to Pennsylvania for me than sending back to the Netherlands for the Kral I bought and had for a few hours before I found the bent shroud. They wanted the whole thing back, so off it went yesterday.

[oldpro]

   Not sure about the rifles but the guy shooting is moving all over the place and his scope cant is really bad!!! If your going to review a gun at least take the human factor out of the shooting or minimalize it with a bi-pod and rear bag etc. I have heard from several that the barrels are really bad and I hope they get it sorted out quickly as a debut like this can sink a ship quickly.

[Pelletjunkie]

If you do your research, you will find that it’s best to steer clear of these guns for a while. Oh, and research does not involve YouTube videos. They are just entertainment. Good or bad videos are just a way to pass the time. Talk to actual owners on forums before you buy a random bandwagon gun. Let the test pilots hit the side of a mountain unless buying junkers is your thing.

[null]

These seem interesting, but I don't like the fact they are single shot... Would've been awesome to have 10 shot mags.

? They come with either a 10 shot or 8 shot mag. I haven’t seen the 6” groups either. I just bought one in .22. I’ll post a review when I get it.

Oops, I kept reading the single shot... lol

[Gone Fishing]

I've seen a significant amount of criticism towards them. A few people have mentioned several YT reviews being sponsored and more fiction than fact (saying single holes at 100 yards kind of thing).

I've never had one. I usually buy the mass produced and used guns of the world...the model Ts and so on. If I am going to take a risk, it would be for a gun manufacturered in the states.

[KnifeMaker]

 am working closely with them on the barrel issue. It is a simple issue and will be quickly remedied.


I cut the rather generous choke off the one I have here for testing and Although it is not accurate with my hand cast pellet, it is a tack driver with the JSB 18/ I shot several 50 yard groups that were the size of a dime. There were however fliers.  to be expected however as the winds were 18 mph with higher gust.


As I said, the issue is being addressed now.
I have found two other improvements for it and they too are being addressed.  Other than weight, I could really like this gun. But for  the bench, it is welcome.    Using a spring I had here, along with a mod to the poppet pin, I picked up over 249 fps over the two chrony's. the lesser spring and before the poppet stem work, it was at 740. Now 998 fps with the JSB 18's.


Miss Victoria is sending a stronger factory replacement spring and an upgraded barrel in order for me to test what the customer can expect.


Mod's will include the change form a ss guide rod for the hammer to a tools steel hammer to prevent galling and is the cause of differing  fps, and hopefully the under cut poppet pin to allow better flow through the valve body up through the port. And finally, I removed apx. 100 thou from the outside Dia of the poppet head itself.. 

Final mod was after removing the crown and polishing the bbl. and re-crown was to open the barrel port from .167 to .187" for better breathing and smoothing the breech leade. this is all being shared with Cattleman.
This is by the way, a U.S. owned company.
 
I will post more when I know more. 


Don't let the blue badge on the scope fool ya. It isn't a discovery. It is Zeiss.   And yes, the bipod is a clone. I only use Accu-Tac for my own gun. The real Accu-Tac. LOL
Knife

[Greg_E]

I had been told that they are not choked barrels, so this is new.

You must have a .25, since the .22 are already going 1100fps and higher and these .22 should probably be turned down a bunch. This is a guess, and only my guess at that, but I'm guessing that these are all made as a .25 chassis and they just put the .22 action/barrel together and let it flow. Again, just a guess (so no one can read that s is official).

[steelblueeyedman]

Thanks Michael..( knife maker )..for the update!  I am impressed with Victoria, the company and the guns. I am just waiting till this gets a bit refined before I purchase 1 or 2 of them. It's great that you are helping out and sharing your expertise!!

[Greg_E]

About the cold welding, would a grease with Teflon be a good way to keep this problem away until parts can be swapped? Or maybe a moly grease? Just looking for a short term solution because a lot of people are now buying these and it would be nice to keep them healthy until a permanent solution is shipped out.

And if you check out the live stream from tonight, Macabespeed made some comments about the T1 and T2 that he received. Summary is that out of the box is not fantastic, they need some adjustments. His full review will be soon, and it seems like it will not be the glowing result that people assumed since he received 2 free rifles. That is my take on what he said tonight, so may be partly what I read into his words.

M&B also had a video today, and while his T2 always seemed to shoot better, he turned the power down and was getting what I would consider to be good results. Really I'd be happy shooting to the level he was hitting today, my skills behind the trigger are not fantastic. Need time and practice!

All 3 of the above are in .22 and all 3 started life shooting faster than 1000fps with "normal" weight pellets.

For full disclosure, yes I chat with both regularly and will eventually meet up with M&B for some shooting because he is close enough. Then I'll be able to put some rounds through his T2 and make up my own mind.

[Gone Fishing]

Anytime someone talks about FPS beyond 970fps with pellets as a positive, I know they don't know they are part of the problem. Slugs maybe a high of 1015 on some platforms...sure I get it...realistically 920-970fps is a very hot speed for most airguns and more realistically 880-920fps is your kosher speeds to maintain stabilization with the skirt. Constructing the gun to shoot in transonic speeds or advertising the gun's transonic abilities is a misplaced sense of value IMO...but that is just my fancy I suppose.